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14 hours ago, luvyablue256 said:

Morgan never had the burst to do anything on the outside. He was a classic Fisher misevaluation. Good enough to keep a spot, not good enough to really make an impact. 

 

He got marginally better when moved to OLB from DE. 

He was a solid player. I appreciate the fact he consistently gave it everything he had on every down. He earned his money. Best of luck to him and his family. 

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14 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

We really need a bigger body that can hold up against the run, Iowa Edge Anthony Nelson is a guy that intrigues me in the 2nd round, not the most explosive guy speed wise but very long/powerful, wins with power/hand use.

If we aren’t looking for explosiveness then sign a guy and tell Finch to add 15 pounds.  You pretty much perfectly described him. 

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8 hours ago, reo said:

Never in his life did he look like the Freak. That's fan hype.

 

He was always billed as a hard worker with good technique. He never had the burst.

 

Iirc Graham was the guy with burst in that draft class.

He had burst, even after the injury. He never had any bend to hit the angle on the speed rush. Tackles could just push him past if the QB released or stepped up. He had 8 1/2 sacks a year ago (I think, maybe it was 2016). Most of it was speed, hands, and hard work. I don’t recall him ever getting a full on bull rush sack. 

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7 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

He had burst, even after the injury. He never had any bend to hit the angle on the speed rush. Tackles could just push him past if the QB released or stepped up. He had 8 1/2 sacks a year ago (I think, maybe it was 2016). Most of it was speed, hands, and hard work. I don’t recall him ever getting a full on bull rush sack. 

I was surprised cause I remember reading about Frank Clark the year he was drafted & Morgan actually had a very high SPARQ score, which measures all around athleticism. His 40 wasn't good, it was high 4.7's, but he had very good jumps & agility drills. I believe his vertical was 36 &  broad jumped close to 10 feet, which is no joke for a guy almost 270. He also had very impressive 3 cone & shuttle scores. The key to was his length, he had super long arms & big hands. 

 

When you look at the combine numbers his career really does make sense. He was a huge pressure guy, he was always right up there with pressures, but he just didn't convert many to sacks. It seemed like he was always a hair away, he just wasn't quite fast enough. I remember I'd watch so many games & it seemed like he'd be in the backfield all game but just couldn't convert. 

 

Morgan was a good player up until 2017 though. Certainly underrated by the fan base. In 2015 & '16 he & Orakpo were a very good edge duo. Neither was a star but not many teams had 2 quality guys like we did. We had a good pass rush along with Casey & Klug. Our secondary was just so bad though. 

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Safe to say that if they are letting Morgan know that they aren't going to pay him much that they plan to go after one of these big FA rushers.

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50 minutes ago, japan said:

Safe to say that if they are letting Morgan know that they aren't going to pay him much that they plan to go after one of these big FA rushers.

Well. Safe to say they're letting him walk.

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5 hours ago, reo said:

Been expected for a while now.

Ya hate to see it, but we've been milkin that bad draft for awhile. Love Morgan and how he made the stride from DE to OLB. Gonna miss him. 

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On 2/1/2019 at 3:46 PM, headhunter said:

Polite - small and takes plays off.

Burns - Skinny

Sweat - Motivation/Doesnt love football

 

Who else is there?

 

 

 

I don't keep up with college ball much so I thought you were describing Morgan, lol. If Morgan is willing to take a hometown pay cut, he still would be good in our rotation. Injury definitely limited his production last year. That said it's time for Evans to shine.

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Morgan is a guy that isn't exceptional, but gives it his all. Teams need those guys and I've got a lot of respect for him. 

 

But when they want to be paid more than they are worth it's time to call it a day and say thanks. 

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19 hours ago, luvyablue256 said:

The fan delusion over Morgan has always been excessive 

Morgan had 7.5 and 9.0 sacks in 2016 and 2017.  He has also been good at getting pressure on the QB even when he doesn't get sacks.  Problem is injury and age might have slowed him down to where he is only a JAG now.  I'd still bring him back if he doesn't get a deal above $5 mil as depth and leadership.  We will probably go into the season in decent shape but still only be one injury away from having to move Evans to OLB.  

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