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6 minutes ago, charleytolar said:

Madness? We have, still, a weak roster and need a few more players that we might now have had we played our hand differently. Just having the picks is not the answer; you have to make them count. Sorry if it hurts!

We don't have a weak roster, there is no way a weak roster wins 9 games the last two years with such limited production from the QB position.

 

What we do lack is elite talent.

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10 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

We don't have a weak roster, there is no way a weak roster wins 9 games the last two years with such limited production from the QB position.

 

What we do lack is elite talent.

Anyone can benefit from elite talent but it is hard to come by. Around here, we are regularly talking about upgrading the 3 interior OL positions, at least one of the RBs, both the starting and backup QB, and expressed worries about an injured, aging TE who has promising but unproven youngsters in the wing. Pedestrian WRs based on performance. Corey Davis seems promising but..... and that is just on the Offensive side.

 

On Defense, no one is impressed with our D-line except for Casey. We are talking about going into next year without both our starting OLBs. Woodyard has been great but the end is in sight. One of our starting Safeties was in street clothes when the season began.

 

Yes, we could use elite talent but we also have a roster that is sagging in the middle.

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Just now, charleytolar said:

Yes, we could use elite talent but we also have a roster that is sagging in the middle.

This is just pure garbage, yes there are several areas we would like to upgrade but in totality our roster is in better shape than a lot of teams around the league right now.

 

There wouldn't be many teams in the NFL that could overcome such poor production from the QB position and still post multiple consecutive winning seasons.

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2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

This is just pure garbage, yes there are several areas we would like to upgrade...

Garbage? All the positions I've mentioned are brought up by some several fans on a regular basis. The least in dispute is Delanie Walker and he is the oldest and the most seriously injured. Which of the ones I highlighted are you thrilled to go forward with?

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1 minute ago, charleytolar said:

Garbage? All the positions I've mentioned are brought up by some several fans on a regular basis. The least in dispute is Delanie Walker and he is the oldest and the most seriously injured. Which of the ones I highlighted are you thrilled to go forward with?

I'm talking about the roster in totality, you specifically said we had a "weak" roster which is just garbage.

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2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

I'm talking about the roster in totality, you specifically said we had a "weak" roster which is just garbage.

Matter of opinion. I see 6-8 spots that desperately need upgrading on a performance basis and a couple of more that will soon on an age basis.

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12 minutes ago, charleytolar said:

Matter of opinion. I see 6-8 spots that desperately need upgrading on a performance basis and a couple of more that will soon on an age basis.

8 seems drastic

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3 minutes ago, headhunter said:

8 seems drastic

These players seem to get pretty roundly criticized:

 

OFFENSE

Ben Jones

Josh Kline

Quentin Spain

Deion Lewis

Luke Stocker

Tajae Sharp (non-factor)

Taywan Taylor (non-factor)

Cameron Batson (non-factor)

Blaine Gabbert

Marcus Mariota (coming back in 2019 but after that?)

4 backup OL who are backing up such under-performers in the interior of the OL

 

DEFENSE

Brian Orakpo (has to be replaced so a zero where a starter once resided is absolutely a weak spot)

Derick Morgan

Wesley Woodyard (has been stalwart but the tank is low)

Austin Johnson (meh)

Da'Quan Jones (meh)

Bennie Logan (meh)

3 backup DL who have not show much except maybe Kilgo

Kendrick Lewis

 

It's not really hard to find 6-8; is it for you?

 

 

 

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Just now, charleytolar said:

These players seem to get pretty roundly criticized:

 

OFFENSE

Ben Jones

Josh Kline

Quentin Spain

Deion Lewis

Luke Stocker

Tajae Sharp (non-factor)

Taywan Taylor (non-factor)

Cameron Batson (non-factor)

Blaine Gabbert

Marcus Mariota (coming back in 2019 but after that?)

4 backup OL who are backing up such under-performers in the interior of the OL

 

DEFENSE

Brian Orakpo (has to be replaced so a zero where a starter once resided is absolutely a weak spot)

Derick Morgan

Wesley Woodyard (has been stalwart but the tank is low)

Austin Johnson (meh)

Da'Quan Jones (meh)

Bennie Logan (meh)

3 backup DL who have not show much except maybe Kilgo

Kendrick Lewis

 

It's not really hard to find 6-8; is it for you?

 

 

 

Yes. Theres no point listing backups. They are backups for a reason. Starter wise we are sitting pretty good on defense except at one OLB spot. Landry will get a bigger role. The DL play two gap so they take up blockers, outside of Casey many DL dont get alot sacks in this system. 

On offense thats a different story. It all hinges on Mariota. 

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5 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Yes. Theres no point listing backups. They are backups for a reason. Starter wise we are sitting pretty good on defense except at one OLB spot. Landry will get a bigger role. The DL play two gap so they take up blockers, outside of Casey many DL dont get alot sacks in this system. 

On offense thats a different story. It all hinges on Mariota. 

There is a point in listing backups because they are half the roster and the discussion is a weak roster. If you have starters in whom you are disappointed, the fact is that the backups have not beaten them out and so are not better-- sometimes that is just inexperience but they still don't strengthen the position.

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2 hours ago, charleytolar said:

These players seem to get pretty roundly criticized:

 

OFFENSE

Ben Jones

Josh Kline

Quentin Spain

Deion Lewis

Luke Stocker

Tajae Sharp (non-factor)

Taywan Taylor (non-factor)

Cameron Batson (non-factor)

Blaine Gabbert

Marcus Mariota (coming back in 2019 but after that?)

4 backup OL who are backing up such under-performers in the interior of the OL

 

DEFENSE

Brian Orakpo (has to be replaced so a zero where a starter once resided is absolutely a weak spot)

Derick Morgan

Wesley Woodyard (has been stalwart but the tank is low)

Austin Johnson (meh)

Da'Quan Jones (meh)

Bennie Logan (meh)

3 backup DL who have not show much except maybe Kilgo

Kendrick Lewis

 

It's not really hard to find 6-8; is it for you?

 

 

 

The only backup that matters on that list is Gabbert and he wouldn’t even matter if Mariota would stop with the freak injuries. 

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Our roster is weak? Not really. We could add a few pieces to make us truly dominant, but outside of that, we are pretty fucking good. 

 

No team is going to have superstars top to bottom, which is what you are implying. 

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1 hour ago, StephenIsLegend said:

Our roster is weak? Not really. We could add a few pieces to make us truly dominant, but outside of that, we are pretty fucking good. 

 

No team is going to have superstars top to bottom, which is what you are implying. 

I said 6-8 and listed all the probable suspects to buttress the argument that 6-8 is not unrealistic. Everyone has different opinions, of course, and that is okay.

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