BudsOilers Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Last two seasons - they are 16-8 with Wentz and he put up 54 TD and 14 INT. Passer rating of 102. Our guy - 16-12 with 24 TD and 23 INT. Passer rating in the mid 80's. Wentz has played 16 less games (a season's worth) and has 1 more TD pass than Mariota has for their careers. For the stat boys, Wentz rookie year out of an FCS school essentially mirrored Mariota's 2017 season. rns90, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, BudAdams said: Last two seasons - they are 16-8 with Wentz and he put up 54 TD and 14 INT. Passer rating of 102. Our guy - 16-12 with 24 TD and 23 INT. Passer rating in the mid 80's. Wentz has played 16 less games (a season's worth) and has 1 more TD pass than Mariota has for their careers. For the stat boys, Wentz rookie year out of an FCS school essentially mirrored Mariota's 2017 season. Stats don't lie and you can't even claim that Mariota has the better W-L record! OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Mariota also had 45 TD's to 19 picks his first 2 years. His rookie year his top 3 WR's are no longer in the league & his 2nd WR was Tajae Sharpe his 2nd year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Face said: Mariota also had 45 TD's to 19 picks his first 2 years. His rookie year his top 3 WR's are no longer in the league & his 2nd WR was Tajae Sharpe his 2nd year. Feels so long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Face said: Mariota also had 45 TD's to 19 picks his first 2 years. His rookie year his top 3 WR's are no longer in the league & his 2nd WR was Tajae Sharpe his 2nd year. What's more relevant - the last two years or what MM did years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 hours ago, japan said: If you watched many Eagles games you know that Wentz didn't pass the eye test. He was bad most of the season and had one of the worst performances by a QB that I've seen in the last 5 years or so against the Saints. Foles was iffy early in the season but of course played well down the stretch and were it not for Jeffrey's blowing an easy pass, they may have been playing in the NFC Championship game. My biggest frustration with Wentz is that he actually throws some bad balls more often than you’d like out of someone as highly touted as he is. I’m not saying he is a bad QB or anything like that. He has some great stats. Also, you have to worry about his long-term availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, BudAdams said: What's more relevant - the last two years or what MM did years ago. if just discussing MM than of course the last 2 years are more relevant but if comparing him to Wentz than I think you need to look at it all. Its not like either one of them has had a long enough career that you can just throw out a couple years when evaluating them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, rns90 said: Stats don't lie and you can't even claim that Mariota has the better W-L record! You have to use the "eye test" of the Mariota homer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: You have to use the "eye test" of the Mariota homer! He doesnt even pass that. Manages the pocket horrible majority of the time. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, headhunter said: He doesnt even pass that. Manages the pocket horrible majority of the time. Yes, that's what I added the eye test from the Mariota homer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said: My biggest frustration with Wentz is that he actually throws some bad balls more often than you’d like out of someone as highly touted as he is. I’m not saying he is a bad QB or anything like that. He has some great stats. Also, you have to worry about his long-term availability. I always laugh at this knock on Wentz. He completed nearly 70% this year. I’d gladly take a couple bad balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Yes, that's what I added the eye test from the Mariota homer While we all want for the Super Bowl, there’s only so much news to pass around during the break. Fortunately, there’s a lot of unique stats out there to break down that deserve their own articles, like this one. Not every Titans fan may know this, but Marcus Mariota and Corey Davis were both superb at converting 3rd downs. 3rd down, as we know, is generally the most critical, intense down, deciding if you’re punting the ball away, kicking a field goal, or keeping the drive alive (Then again, everyone’s going for it on fourth down now). Mariota finished fifth in 3rd down conversion percentage on pass plays in 2018, converting 45 of 97 3rd down passing opportunities. His 46.4% conversion percentage on 3rd down only trailed Patrick Mahomes (51.6% on 64/124 attempts), James Winston (50.6% on 42/83 attempts), Andrew Luck (49.3% on 80/162 attempts), and Matt Ryan (48.6% on 72/148 attempts). Mariota’s sample size is smaller than the rest of the QBs in the top five due to an injury shortened season, but his ability to convert pass plays on critical downs was essential in keeping the Titans’ playoff hopes alive. On the receiving side of things, Corey Davis also excelled in moving the chains, finished tied for eighth with Mike Evans in first down catches on 3rd down with 20 of those. Davis finished behind Julio Jones (24), Michael Thomas (23), Tyler Boyd and DeAndre Hopkins (22), and TY Hilton, Travis Kelce and Adam Thielen (21). That’s elite company to trail, and that shows the growth Davis displayed in his second season in the league. Incredibly, Mariota also finished second in 3rd and long conversion percentage (8 yards or more), converting on 47.2% (17/36) of his 3rd and long pass plays, trailing Winston (50.0, 19/38). Despite a year where his raw stats were pedestrian, Mariota’s ability to convert 3rd downs and keep drives going was as good as any other QB in 2018. You can find and customize the stats mentioned in this piece here. If you want to see all of Mariota’s drop backs on 3rd and 4th down, Music City Miracles’ very own Justin Graver went into complete detail and released a video of that that you can find here. Edited February 2, 2019 by Huston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 4th-qtr passer rating during one-score games (25 att min; 30 qualifying QB) Ryan 124.8 Brady 122.8 Wentz 119.8 Mahomes 115.4 Brees 114.2 Prescott 112.3 Mariota 109.8 Luck 106.5 ——— Carr 83.8 Mayfield 81.3 Dalton 79.7 Allen 71.3 Winston 67.4 Mullens 60.3 Bortles 52.5 Darnold 39.4 SleepingTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, CaliTitan3518 said: I always laugh at this knock on Wentz. He completed nearly 70% this year. I’d gladly take a couple bad balls. Keep on laughing, then. It’s more than a couple each game. CaliTitan3518, and Huston 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 7 hours ago, OILERMAN said: You must think Mariota is one of the worst ever then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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