big2033 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Once you accept it it's so much easier What's so amazing about the article is the comments after ... none of them really want to talk about Mariota just the same ol': We need this, that and that for Marcus. Edited January 21, 2019 by big2033 OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, big2033 said: What's so amazing about the article is the comments after ... none of them really want to talk about Mariota just the same ol': We need this, that and that for Marcus. The issues with the passing game are on him, period big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 So this shows what we all already knew. He should have thrown it away or took more risks when his reads aren't open instead of taking a sack. That's definitely the smart thing to do and it possibly would have kept him from re injury. He definitely takes a lot of blame there and needs to improve that desperately. I wish Mike also broke down how much time he had to throw before pressure got to him and how that compared to the rest of the league. Mike did however mention that receivers weren't getting open which caused the timidness from Mariota and the sacks issues in the first place. To act like Mariota was holding back some elite offense because instead of taking a sack, he threw it away or forced a ball into coverage, is kind of silly. Reasons are offense was so poor, especially in the beginning of the season were: Mariota's nerve injury, young receivers learning a new system and not having a trusted receiver in Delanie, OL allowing pressure, and Mariota playing way too conservative and not putting pressure on defenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, ap24786 said: He should have thrown it away or took more risks when his reads aren't open instead of taking a sack. LOL, there you go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, big2033 said: Can't deny that we're wasting the surrounding talent right now. Mariota has enough surrounding pieces to at least be an above average QB if he has the skills. He's getting injured because he's taking bad sacks. He's a running QB without scrambling ability. A statue in the pocket without pocket presence. Just an oxymoron at QB. In this same article you guys are nitpicking it even says receivers weren't getting open, so his main problem is trying to run instead of throwing it away. That's the main issue with Mariota. He doesn't take risks. But it's not like he's missing wide open receivers consistently. To say we have a lot of talent here on the offensive side of the football is just not true. What is true is that our passing offense should still be better even with our below average skills players. And I think that has to do with his nerve injury. His main issue right now is staying healthy. If he can't stay healthy he misses practice and game time and can't get any rapport with our receivers. So he doesn't even take risks throwing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 This is why they need to get him the hell out of N'ville. Just cut bait. Dump him now and go get someone who knows how to play the game. OILERMAN, and EagleEye 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 WRs rarely get wide open in the NFL. TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 You have to throw with anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, big2033 said: What's so amazing about the article is the comments after ... none of them really want to talk about Mariota just the same ol': We need this, that and that for Marcus. It's still significant that we have a mainstream name, at least in the Titans internet circles, actually blaming Mariota for something though. IIRC Mike and that Neely guy still had their heads up their asses for the most part before the 2018 season. 3 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: This is why they need to get him the hell out of N'ville. Just cut bait. Dump him now and go get someone who knows how to play the game. The funny this is despite the snark behind this I think you're actually right. If the team doesn't think he's the guy then why are we wasting a year with him? Like, if the quote below (the big and OMAN opinion for years now) accurately portrays the teams' opinion... they're just stringing us along by committing to him. 30 minutes ago, big2033 said: Can't deny that we're wasting the surrounding talent right now. Mariota has enough surrounding pieces to at least be an above average QB if he has the skills. He's getting injured because he's taking bad sacks. He's a running QB without scrambling ability. A statue in the pocket without pocket presence. Just an oxymoron at QB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, big2033 said: What's so amazing about the article is the comments after ... none of them really want to talk about Mariota just the same ol': We need this, that and that for Marcus. Literally the only knowledgeable Titans fans that you will find are on this forum. DrFlamehead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, ap24786 said: In this same article you guys are nitpicking it even says receivers weren't getting open, so his main problem is trying to run instead of throwing it away. That's the main issue with Mariota. He doesn't take risks. But it's not like he's missing wide open receivers consistently. To say we have a lot of talent here on the offensive side of the football is just not true. What is true is that our passing offense should still be better even with our below average skills players. And I think that has to do with his nerve injury. His main issue right now is staying healthy. If he can't stay healthy he misses practice and game time and can't get any rapport with our receivers. So he doesn't even take risks throwing the ball. Oh I read it. And it was quickly explained: However, the Titans quarterback’s response to targets not being open in 2018 was too often a panicked scramble that landed him in harm’s way. Mariota doesn't force the issue, nor does he throw guys open. the combination is making things worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ap24786 said: So this shows what we all already knew. He should have thrown it away or took more risks when his reads aren't open instead of taking a sack. That's definitely the smart thing to do and it possibly would have kept him from re injury. He definitely takes a lot of blame there and needs to improve that desperately. I wish Mike also broke down how much time he had to throw before pressure got to him and how that compared to the rest of the league. Mike did however mention that receivers weren't getting open which caused the timidness from Mariota and the sacks issues in the first place. To act like Mariota was holding back some elite offense because instead of taking a sack, he threw it away or forced a ball into coverage, is kind of silly. Reasons are offense was so poor, especially in the beginning of the season were: Mariota's nerve injury, young receivers learning a new system and not having a trusted receiver in Delanie, OL allowing pressure, and Mariota playing way too conservative and not putting pressure on defenses. The offense will go as Mariota goes. That's what we've been saying. And the offense is bad. A good-to-great QB can overcome below average receivers and an average oline. A good OL and WRs can't overcome a below average QB. Edited January 21, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: This is why they need to get him the hell out of N'ville. Just cut bait. Dump him now and go get someone who knows how to play the game. Not until he's out of the NFL with no chance to start. Just to make you insane. Edited January 21, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jonboy said: WRs rarely get wide open in the NFL. He doesn't throw a lot of times even when they are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Love how the people who were giving some of us shit for attributing the sacks to Marcus are just going to wipe this under the rug like they always do. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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