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5 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Manafort likely went against Mueller in hopes of a pardon. The real risk is Trump would stab him in the back. The way this is unfolding there is no way politically Trump will be able to pardon Manafort. 

I don't think we can say anything with such certainty anymore.

 

I agree it has become much more difficult for him to pardon Manafort, but never underestimate Trump's willingness to do the unthinkable, and for the Republicans in Congress to just shrug their shoulders.

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14 minutes ago, ctm said:

independent contractor

I think there is a fair chance that she was/is a Russian agent.  She might have been sent to US to be a high society prostitute with goal of finding curruptable men who could be of use to Russia. Once she made contact with him in the 1990s, her job became one of steering him into Russian money laundering, etc.  and then the relationships between Trump and Russia grew.  No public evidence, but I do not think many would be surprised and it would make a lot of sense. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Legaltitan said:

I don't think we can say anything with such certainty anymore.

 

I agree it has become much more difficult for him to pardon Manafort, but never underestimate Trump's willingness to do the unthinkable, and for the Republicans in Congress to just shrug their shoulders.

This will eventually become politically toxic though

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5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

This will eventually become politically toxic though

I don't disagree. All I am saying is we have been waiting for years for Trump to do things that make him politically toxic.

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11 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

I don't disagree. All I am saying is we have been waiting for years for Trump to do things that make him politically toxic.

Maybe not toxic, but the latest polls aren't good for him.

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/685539207/poll-trump-approval-down-slips-with-base?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

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Oh I agree he is sinking. All I'm saying is I don't put anything, including pardoning Manafot, past him. And I don't put anything, including defending his pardoning Manafort, past the cowardly Republicans in the House and Senate. There will no doubt be much "concern," and maybe even "grave concern," and knitted eyebrows, but until someone proves to me otherwise, I don't expect the Republicans to do one fucking thing to reign in this President.

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7 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

Oh I agree he is sinking. All I'm saying is I don't put anything, including pardoning Manafot, past him. And I don't put anything, including defending his pardoning Manafort, past the cowardly Republicans in the House and Senate. There will no doubt be much "concern," and maybe even "grave concern," and knitted eyebrows, but until someone proves to me otherwise, I don't expect the Republicans to do one fucking thing to reign in this President.

At this point in time I don't disagree.  But the final decision will be made under different conditions than today.  The Mueller report will be out.  Who knows what else?  Nixon was in good shape until the day that the tapes came out and then his senate support collapsed in just a few days.

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16 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

I don't disagree. All I am saying is we have been waiting for years for Trump to do things that make him politically toxic.

If the electorate, blissfully and willfully ensconced in their echo-chamber, doesn't hold him accountable how can political toxicity be objectively assessed anymore.  Tribal based jury nullification is a real thing.  We are seeing it play out in the electorate, too, I'd argue partially because the 'conservative' pundit elites relish the power of driving the GOP agenda more so than their elected officials.

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1 hour ago, Legaltitan said:

Oh I agree he is sinking. All I'm saying is I don't put anything, including pardoning Manafot, past him. And I don't put anything, including defending his pardoning Manafort, past the cowardly Republicans in the House and Senate. There will no doubt be much "concern," and maybe even "grave concern," and knitted eyebrows, but until someone proves to me otherwise, I don't expect the Republicans to do one fucking thing to reign in this President.

They don’t even like Trump but need his supporters, if he loses the base he loses the Republicans 

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49 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

They don’t even like Trump but need his supporters, if he loses the base he loses the Republicans 

Exactly. I'm not holding my breath.

 

Honestly, the biggest factor to his losing his base is not the Mueller report, it's the continued incompetence. The biggest problem for Trump with the Shutdown is not that the government is shutdown (although that is causing plenty of problems), it's that it is exposing him for being weak, incompetent and ineffective. So if the economy starts to tank and Trump can't fulfill his basic responsibility which is to have a functioning government, the base will turn on him. They voted for him because they thought he would get shit done, or at least were willing to hope and throw a hail mary. The guy is exposing himself as an incompetent boob. His biggest accomplishment was the tax bill which did nothing for his base.

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50 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

Exactly. I'm not holding my breath.

 

Honestly, the biggest factor to his losing his base is not the Mueller report, it's the continued incompetence. The biggest problem for Trump with the Shutdown is not that the government is shutdown (although that is causing plenty of problems), it's that it is exposing him for being weak, incompetent and ineffective. So if the economy starts to tank and Trump can't fulfill his basic responsibility which is to have a functioning government, the base will turn on him. They voted for him because they thought he would get shit done, or at least were willing to hope and throw a hail mary. The guy is exposing himself as an incompetent boob. His biggest accomplishment was the tax bill which did nothing for his base.

The hardcore base will never turn on him, but the Fox News types who believed he was the amazing deal maker may. 

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31 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

The hardcore base will never turn on him, but the Fox News types who believed he was the amazing deal maker may. 

Yes, I guess we are saying the same thing. The Deplorables will go down with the ship. 

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