big2033 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Titans279 said: I mean, a great offensive mind got A LOT out of Smith. He had the best passer rating in 2017 Overall he was still average though, average enough for them to get rid of him for better talent. In the end, the good ones become good QBs. That's why I'm not overally dejected about this. If Mariota succeeds, it'll be him who does it not a magical OC who's around for 3 years. Edited January 8, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, big2033 said: Overall he was still average though, average enough for them to get rid of him for better talent. I just find it annoying how narratives get put out like "OC doesn't matter" when it's obviously false EagleEye, IsntLifeFunny, and oldschool 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Titans279 said: I just find it annoying how narratives get put out like "OC doesn't matter" when it's obviously false Of course the offensive coordinator matters. If the guy calling the play is calling plays that can't or won't work then he's a liability to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, scine09 said: Of course the offensive coordinator matters. If the guy calling the play is calling plays that can't or won't work then he's a liability to the team. Terry *cough* Robiskie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Terry *cough* Robiskie. Robiskie was a puppet for Mularkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) With Sarkisian, we'd be able to keep Carter as the run game coach most likely, as he worked with Sarkisian. The run game concepts would probably be close to identical. Sarkisian's offense apparently is a short passing game with heavy play action. Who does that sound like it fits? Does anyone have any knowledge on whether his alcohol problems persist? Edited January 8, 2019 by tgo titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, scine09 said: Robiskie was a puppet for Mularkey. Most likely. But he was still the moron calling the same play that wasn't working waiting for it to pop. Just because he was Mularkey's moron doesn't mean he was less of a moron. Bluth, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, TitanDuckFan said: Most likely. But he was still the moron calling the same play that wasn't working waiting for it to pop. Just because he was Mularkey's moron doesn't mean he was less of a moron. What's he supposed to do, defy the boss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Most likely. But he was still the moron calling the same play that wasn't working waiting for it to pop. Just because he was Mularkey's moron doesn't mean he was less of a moron. To be fair that strategy worked for the Seahawks for a while But yeah I hate that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, tgo said: With Sarkisian, we'd be able to keep Carter as the run game coach most likely, as he worked with Sarkisian. The run game concepts would probably be close to identical. Sarkisian's offense apparently is a short passing game with heavy play action. Who does that sound like it fits? Does anyone have any knowledge on whether his alcohol problems persist? No - he was a big drinker when he was the HC at UW and USC. Hit rock bottom at SC and was clean and sober before Saban hired him at Alabama. He hits a lot of check marks. I also wonder if Darrell Bevel is a candidate. He did good work with Favre in Minnesota and with Wilson in Seattle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Yep. This is what I expect and I think it’s a good idea for Mariota’s potentially last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Titans279 said: I just find it annoying how narratives get put out like "OC doesn't matter" when it's obviously false Of course the OC matters. But Mariota isn't finished because of changing OCs. Great players play well regardless, that's why the OC keeps his job most of the time and there's continuity. A bad OC with a great QB will make things harder for the QB ... but they'll still perform - you can use Russell Wilson as an example. Sakresian with Matt Ryan is another example. A bad QB will make any OC look bad. Edited January 8, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, big2033 said: Of course the OC matters. But Mariota isn't finished because of changing OCs. True but it definitely has a negative impact Great players play well regardless, that's why the OC keeps his job most of the time and there's continuity. Not always A bad OC with a great QB will make things harder for the QB ... but they'll still perform - you can use Russell Wilson as an example. Not always A bad QB will make any OC look bad. Yeah big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) More on Sarkisian: 1. Runs a lot of RPO 2. Runs a lot of screens 3. Runs outside zone 4. Very heavy play action 5. Short passing game College and pro mindset both, Vrabel values the college perspective. There are a lot of staff and front office connections between our staff and the Patriots connections to draw info from regarding Sarkisian and get full perspectives. Additionally, I doubt he'd be a hot HC candidate anytime soon. Would be interested in some different perspectives on that angle. Edited January 8, 2019 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, big2033 said: Of course the OC matters. But Mariota isn't finished because of changing OCs. Great players play well regardless, that's why the OC keeps his job most of the time and there's continuity. A bad OC with a great QB will make things harder for the QB ... but they'll still perform - you can use Russell Wilson as an example. Sakresian with Matt Ryan is another example. A bad QB will make any OC look bad. He finally had a good OC and that was the same year Delanie (his most trusted target) got injured for the year and Matthews quit the team. Also the same year where the pass protection which was good in 2016 and at least average last year went to crap this year. And of course the year where he had a fluke nerve injury in his throwing arm which lingered the entire season. And now he loses his OC because he gets a HC job with a legacy franchise. titanruss, and DCTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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