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What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season  

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  1. 1. What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

    • Interior offensive line
    • Defensive line
    • Wide receivers
    • Tight Ends
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    • Quarterback
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3 minutes ago, WG53 said:

DL.

 

Outside of Casey they are all jags.  And none are pass rushers.

The defensive scheme we're currently running doesn't require pass rushers at NT and 5 technique. 

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WR.

 

The OL had major injuries and Conklin never was right. JRob actually had a starter quality backup ready who outplayed Conklin all year. The scheme change also clearly had a huge negative impact. I'm not sure JRob is the culprit here considering what Henry did after the bye.

 

But WR...he knew Matthews wasn't gonna be here very long, yet had no backup plan. TTaylor was horrible in year 1 and yet they counted on him way too much to be the #2 and deep threat. And thank the gods C. Davis actually looked the part, because even he was a 2nd year player coming off an injury that could have delayed his development. We then had Sharpe (solid #4) and a slew of special teamers that are all fine #5 WRs, yet we made them 2s and 3s after injuries.

 

Considering you already had the OC and scheme change, and were still unsure about the QB position, JRob massively screwed up by not getting better depth. People screamed all offseason for him to go after a veteran like Golden Tate.

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In a larger sense though, I think JRob (and seemingly most of our GMs since Floyd) have neglected the DL (and EDGE players).

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18 minutes ago, tgo said:

The defensive scheme we're currently running doesn't require pass rushers at NT and 5 technique. 

Every scheme needs pass rushers. Gtfo with that nonsense.

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3 minutes ago, WG53 said:

Every scheme needs pass rushers. Gtfo with that nonsense.

Not many nose tackles and 5 tech that can rush the passer unfortunetly. Its pretty rare. 

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6 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Not many nose tackles and 5 tech that can rush the passer unfortunetly. Its pretty rare. 

We ran a 4 man line often. Idgaf about a base defense we rarely run in passing situations. 

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19 minutes ago, WG53 said:

Every scheme needs pass rushers. Gtfo with that nonsense.

Take a look at the Ravens DL under Pees. Look at the Patriots DL. Texans DL minus Watt. 

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1 hour ago, JoelinBellevue said:

He dropped back far fewer times than anyone in the league. Percentage wise he had the most hits.

Bullshit.  Seattle attempted 10 fewer passes and allowed 25 more hits.

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15 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Bullshit.  Seattle attempted 10 fewer passes and allowed 25 more hits.

Where did you get that shit?

Wilson had 427 pass attempts and Mariota only 331.

 

As a team, SEA had 10 more pass attempts and only 4 more sacks than TN.

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1 hour ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Where did you get that shit?

Wilson had 427 pass attempts and Mariota only 331.

 

As a team, SEA had 10 more pass attempts and only 4 more sacks than TN.

Seattle had the fewest passing attempts in the league.  I'm talking about QB hits, not plays where Mariota held onto the ball and took a sack without any intention of throwing it. 

 

Houston only attempted 69 more passes, but allowed 56 more hits.  Miami had 18 more attempts, but allowed 37 more hits.  SF had 95 more attempts, but around 50 more hits as well.  Saying we allowed the highest percent of QB hits is just bullshit.

 

Mariota took sacks at over 2.5 times the rate that Gabbert did.  If he knew how to get rid of the ball and have similar success at not taking sacks, we would have allowed roughly 22 sacks this year.

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15 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Seattle had the fewest passing attempts in the league.  I'm talking about QB hits, not plays where Mariota held onto the ball and took a sack without any intention of throwing it. 

 

Houston only attempted 69 more passes, but allowed 56 more hits.  Miami had 18 more attempts, but allowed 37 more hits.  SF had 95 more attempts, but around 50 more hits as well.  Saying we allowed the highest percent of QB hits is just bullshit.

 

Mariota took sacks at over 2.5 times the rate that Gabbert did.  If he knew how to get rid of the ball and have similar success at not taking sacks, we would have allowed roughly 22 sacks this year.

Care to share where you're getting these stats?

I'm not saying they're wrong, but it would be nice to see the references.

 

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5 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Care to share where you're getting these stats?

I'm not saying they're wrong, but it would be nice to see the references.

 

NFL.com.

 

As for that last bit, I used my accounting super powers to come to some sort of conclusion.  Basically, for every 10 attempts that MM makes, he takes 1.27 sacks (42 sacks/331 attempts).  So even at 34 attempts per game, which is around the average for the league, he would take around 69 sacks over the season (!!!!)

 

Meanwhile, Gabbert has 101 attempts and has suffered 5 sacks, so he takes half a sack per 10 attempts.  If he were to attempt 34 passes per game (not that we want Gabbert throwing the ball this much), he would take around 27 sacks per season.  We only attempt about 27 passes per game, so that would give us 22 sacks on the year at this rate.

 

Either this line is a bunch of Guess Who popups posing as offensive linemen, or the QB is an issue.

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33 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Either this line is a bunch of Guess Who popups posing as offensive linemen, or the QB is an issue.

For roughly 12 weeks, they looked a lot like the popups you speak of.

Or did you miss that part?

 

ETA: I'm still not finding QB hits, even at NFL.com,...   Gotta link?

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