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What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season  

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  1. 1. What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

    • Interior offensive line
    • Defensive line
    • Wide receivers
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Huston   
23 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

That's where they finished, but that doesn't mean it was the easiest position group to anticipate problems with.

Sharpe came back and Taylor and Davis were supposed to take the next step, and Matthews accepted a deal, leading people to believe he'd be a contributor on par with his past two years.

Only one of those predictions panned out.

They seemed pretty to be ok going into the season but Davis ended up being the only healthy wr all season, Sharpe's ankle had him as a non factor for nearly half the season and Taylor missed almost a month as well.

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abc2330   
30 minutes ago, tgo said:

The Titans had one of the highest drop rates in the league. We literally lost a game because our fucking practice squad caliber wide receiver who shouldn't have even been on the team let it go right through his hands. 

 

The receivers are garbage. 

Yet we were one of the best in terms of drop rate last year, and the production wasn't much different and the passing offense was less efficient.  

 

People here have completely unrealistic expectations.  We had two legit receivers and a legit pass catching TE.  How many teams have anything other than role players or backup caliber receivers beyond their top 3?  Not many who have a top 3 defense and #7 passing game.  Almost everything that could go wrong for the personnel in our passing game did.

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tgo   
42 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Conversely, look at the OL. Did J-Rob even try to land any relevant OL this off-season? What about during the regular season? All he did was bring in warm bodies in Sua-Filo, Quessenberry, and Pamphile who weren't even good enough to beat out the likes of Ben Jones and Josh Kline. It seems clear to me at least, that J-Rob thought this unit was "fine" and just needed a little depth behind the starters. He mis-calculated. What that unit needed was to replace Jones and Kline and he didn't do near enough to address that. Also, the receivers are certainly under-performing but to be honest they actually got open a good amount this season and caught the ball pretty well as a unit. Think about this;

I think you'll find that he "miscalculates" again this offseason then. 

 

Because most likely only one guy gets replaced. 

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2 minutes ago, tgo said:

I think you'll find that he "miscalculates" again this offseason then. 

 

Because most likely only one guy gets replaced. 

I'd be happy with that if it is an above average to good center.

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Soxcat   
42 minutes ago, tgo said:

The Titans had one of the highest drop rates in the league. We literally lost a game because our fucking practice squad caliber wide receiver who shouldn't have even been on the team let it go right through his hands. 

 

The receivers are garbage. 

Can't argue with that but how many teams have 3 and 4 deep WRs that are perfect?  I went thought the list of player with the most drops in the NFL.  Yea, Taylor was on the list with about 50 other guys tied for 19th with 4 dropped passes.  He was our worst guy. 

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tgo   
Just now, Soxcat said:

Can't argue with that but how many teams have 3 and 4 deep WRs that are perfect?  I went thought the list of player with the most drops in the NFL.  Yea, Taylor was on the list with about 50 other guys tied for 19th with 4 dropped passes.  He was our worst guy. 

We don't need 4 good receivers, but do need 3. Right now we only have 1. 

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Is it a mistake to let your new coach hire an OC who wants to run a system with a different blocking scheme than the one you have been building on for a couple of years? Especially when your gut tells you that you might hold onto this OC for three years at best...

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Mythos27   
57 minutes ago, tgo said:

I think you'll find that he "miscalculates" again this offseason then. 

 

Because most likely only one guy gets replaced. 

That would be very disappointing especially when you consider that the odd man out is probably the best of the three interior guys.

Edited by Mythos27

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7 minutes ago, charleytolar said:

Is it a mistake to let your new coach hire an OC who wants to run a system with a different blocking scheme than the one you have been building on for a couple of years? Especially when your gut tells you that you might hold onto this OC for three years at best...

I say it is, but that's not popular around here because MLF is.  I think JRob should have known who was better able to adapt to the ZBS.

It does however, make it easier on future draft days because so few college programs run a Man/Power scheme anymore.  Therefore most college RBs are accustomed to running behind the zone scheme too.

This may have contributed to Lewis falling off as the year went on.  He's run behind power blocking most of his career.

As the line got better/more comfortable in the Zone scheme, his numbers fell off, even though to all the world it was obvious the O-Line was executing better, and so was Henry.

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Mythos27   
Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

I say it is, but that's not popular around here because MLF is.  I think JRob should have known who was better able to adapt to the ZBS.

It does however, make it easier on future draft days because so few college programs run a Man/Power scheme anymore.  Therefore most college RBs are accustomed to running behind the zone scheme too.

This may have contributed to Lewis falling off as the year went on.  He's run behind power blocking most of his career.

As the line got better/more comfortable in the Zone scheme, his numbers fell off, even though to all the world it was obvious the O-Line was executing better, and so was Henry.

That's an excellent point I hadn't even thought of. It certainly could explain why despite better blocking his production didn't spike as much as Henry's. I've been really wondering about this.

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tgo   
9 minutes ago, charleytolar said:

Is it a mistake to let your new coach hire an OC who wants to run a system with a different blocking scheme than the one you have been building on for a couple of years? Especially when your gut tells you that you might hold onto this OC for three years at best...

It's a good point. 

 

But the counter is that the Shanahan scheme overall is the best scheme for Mariota, and it happens to be zone blocking based. This also allows you to do some things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do schematically. 

 

But I've thought about this a lot. What if we had hired Callahan as OC....or someone like Todd Monken. The OL probably plays a lot better initially. 

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tgo   
5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

That's an excellent point I hadn't even thought of. It certainly could explain why despite better blocking his production didn't spike as much as Henry's. I've been really wondering about this.

Some of us addressed this point a few weeks ago. Lewis is more of a power/gap scheme type of back and isn't really cut out for a zone scheme ideally. 

 

But his prowess in the screen game and pass game kind of negates that to an extent and makes him worth it. 

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