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What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season  

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  1. 1. What unit was JRob's biggest mis-calculation going into the season

    • Interior offensive line
    • Defensive line
    • Wide receivers
    • Tight Ends
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    • Quarterback
    • Offensive Tackles
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    • Outside Linebackers
    • Inside Linebackers
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    • Corner Backs
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    • Safeties
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    • Running Backs
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tgo   
Just now, Soxcat said:

Yea in hindsight it was ludicrous but JRob extended him.  JRob paid him to be on the team past last season.  JRob paid him $7 mil for 2018 and he was scheduled for another $4.5 mil in 2019.  So what did the team know? 

It has been reported that A) Matthews had demanded his release more than once before in previous years with the Titans, and B) that Mularkey wanted Matthews gone as a condition of him returning due to all the problems he was causing, and also that Robiskie couldn't stand Matthews. 

 

The staff in Miami couldn't stand Matthews either. 

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tgo   
3 minutes ago, headhunter said:

We currently have the worst WR core in the NFL and Im a big fan of Corey Davis but its just him there.

This. It's literally one of the worst WR groups in the NFL.

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abc2330   
3 minutes ago, ap24786 said:

And the OL being garbage for the first 2/3 of the season along with the running game. But these things are all circular. If you have bad receivers teams will load up the box. If you have poor OL and running game play, receivers will be inhibited. If I had to pick I put most of the blame on the OL though. There were times they were getting beat by 3 man blitzes. Just sad. 

Yeah, but we did only allow the 5th fewest QB hits.  Our sack total should have been nowhere close to where it was.  Wilson and Watson have had to deal with that a lot more often than Mariota has.  I'm sure that the people who drafted him envisioned that his mobility would make for a lot of off-script and extended plays, but the opposite has been true.

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Soxcat   
Just now, tgo said:

It has been reported that A) Matthews had demanded his release more than once before in previous years with the Titans, and B) that Mularkey wanted Matthews gone as a condition of him returning due to all the problems he was causing, and also that Robiskie couldn't stand Matthews. 

 

The staff in Miami couldn't stand Matthews either. 

I don't doubt that but obviously JRob knew we were desperate for a vet WR so he extended him in an effort to get something out of him last season.  Yes, that is how desperate we were. 

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BudAdams   
15 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

How could anyone say we "were" thin at OLB?  We had two vet starters, drafted Landry, traded for Correa and signed Finch as an UDFA  (also had Aaron Wallace).  Our 1st round pick can also play OLB if needed and did last season some.  So going into the season we had 2 proven starters and a draft pick they expected to become a starter soon.  Depth is always an issue for any team if you want to see talent 4 or 5 levels down. 

 

Obviously the OL was the biggest issue.

Orapko and Morgan showed signs in 2017 that they could drop off the map and they did.  Given that position provides the pass rush, it was a big issue

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Soxcat   
1 minute ago, abc2330 said:

Yeah, but we did only allow the 5th fewest QB hits.  Our sack total should have been nowhere close to where it was.  Wilson and Watson have had to deal with that a lot more often than Mariota has.  I'm sure that the people who drafted him envisioned that his mobility would make for a lot of off-script and extended plays, but the opposite has been true.

The OL actually was better at pass protecting than run blocking early in the year.  If the OL was as bad as the Texans and Seahawks Mariota would be dead with his injury history and lack of pocket awareness. 

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Soxcat   
1 minute ago, BudAdams said:

Orapko and Morgan showed signs in 2017 that they could drop off the map and they did.  Given that position provides the pass rush, it was a big issue

And we traded up to draft Landry.  We traded for Correa.  It is like people think JRob could just go down to the local Walmart and pick a few extra pass rushers off the shelves.  In reality he hit the jackpot with Landry and Finch (since Finch didn't cost anything). 

 

The real issue all season was a lack of up front push.  We have literally not replaced Klug either and need another inside pass rush specialist. 

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Soxcat   

Oh, and Morgan actually had one of his best years in 2017.  7.5 sacks in 14 games.  Yea he fell off but he wasn't regressing as much as Orakpo going into 2018. 

 

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abc2330   
10 minutes ago, headhunter said:

I have no idea how WR is not winning this poll. Literally the worst group in the NFL the past two seasons. 

This is not true at all.

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15 minutes ago, headhunter said:

I have no idea how WR is not winning this poll. Literally the worst group in the NFL the past two seasons. 

That's where they finished, but that doesn't mean it was the easiest position group to anticipate problems with.

Sharpe came back and Taylor and Davis were supposed to take the next step, and Matthews accepted a deal, leading people to believe he'd be a contributor on par with his past two years.

Only one of those predictions panned out.

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Soxcat   

Obviously we need a reliable #2 WR.  We also needed a reliable pass catching TE but I guess JRob should have predicted the Walker injury. 

But it is true our WRs aren't as bad as advertised but as I stated in another thread our 200 yard a game QB is never going to have a group of pro bowl level WRs.  Davis is a justified solid 1000 yard 80 catch guy on almost any other team in the NFL.  But he sucks because he only caught 65 passes for 900 yards?  Point being the weakness of our group is amplified by the poor passing game.  Guys would be getting a couple more catches per game if we had a real good QB.  As in Taylor or Sharpe could have 32 more catches a year. 

 

 

 

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Smokes   

Line got better with a combination of Henry running like an NFL running back between the takles coupled with Kelly replacing Conklin which brought the RT production up and in turn probably helped Spain out a ton not having a one legged RT beside him.

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