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Official Beto O'Rourke Thread: Discuss all things Beto

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This guy has the early buzz and the swagger, and (unfortunately) most importantly, the fundraising chops.

 

I admit I am very biased, because Beto is one of those candidates that has captivated me much like Obama did. I just like the guy, and I feel good about him. If that sounds squishy and emotion-based, ok so be it. But it's also based on my gut telling me this guy can unite the Democratic party like noone has been able to since Obama.

 

Another very overlooked factor is Beto's retail politics prowess. I won't say he has Bill Clinton's chops - no one will probably ever be as good at retail politics as dirty Bill. But Beto is very good at it, and more importantly he understands his importance. He went in to every community he could in Texas, talking to and listening to voters. 

 

Very telling to me that Beto was criticized heavily for running as a progressive against Cruz: "it was there for the taking, if he had just been more moderate!" And now, the Bernie bros and others are criticizing Beto for being too moderate. To me, nothing could better signify that he is right where he needs to be.

 

So despite losing to Cruz, the guy has alot going for him. Young, attractive, an "it" factor, smart, fairly courageous politically, and seems to concern both the centrists and the progressives in the Democratic Party. 

 

Thoughts?

 

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4 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Meh, it won’t last. He is popular among Dems because he ran against Cruz but I don’t think he has anything about him that looks presidential. 

lol I feel exactly the opposite.

 

We shall see.

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OILERMAN   
1 hour ago, Legaltitan said:

lol I feel exactly the opposite.

 

We shall see.

I do too, he oozes charisma and charm 

 

I think he'll be the next president(not counting whoever replaces Comrade Trump)

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I’m not sure he can make it through the primaries, especially with all the states closing the caucuses, but he would absolutely demolish Trump. I think he would likely be a very good president.

 

He’s the kind of guy who is confident enough to know what he doesn’t know, know when someone is bullshitting them, and is therefore able to surround himself with good people who know more than him but don’t have his leadership capabilities. That has always been the most defining characteristic of an American president in my opinion.

 

Leaders from other countries have to be the smartest person in the room a lot of times. Leaders in the US have to recognize the smartest people in the room and make sure to tell them what job to take care of. 

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

I do too, he oozes charisma and charm 

 

I think he'll be the next president(not counting whoever replaces Comrade Trump)

This.  I think he lacks substance. He hasn't really accomplished anything for me to get excited but I think he could pull people together and win- which is more than enough to get my support.  I would prefer a highly competent and accomplished candidate but those are few and they usually come with baggage.  He'll get bloodied from both sides before its done, so we'll see how he handles that.  The shine will come off for dems pretty quickly as people start to pick their horse. 

 

He has the buzz and charisma. I would have no problem voting for him. 

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1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I’m not sure he can make it through the primaries, especially with all the states closing the caucuses, 

I was actually thinkjg the opposite. With hkm being sort of the mainstream "I like that guy" candidate rather than the Bernie-like religious fervor type, and with no clear establishment frontrunner, the elimination of the caucuses may benefit him. Certainly won't hurt him as much as it would have Obama v Hillary or Bernie v Hillary. 

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He's got a shot.  I've been really hard on Beto and registered in TN so I wouldn't have to vote here in Texas.  His policies at face value don't scream anything crazy but I get the impression that he's for open borders, gun control, and would be tough on business.  I'm not sure that's the guy I want to run against Trump.  

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5 minutes ago, Justafan said:

He's got a shot.  I've been really hard on Beto and registered in TN so I wouldn't have to vote here in Texas.  His policies at face value don't scream anything crazy but I get the impression that he's for open borders, gun control, and would be tough on business.  I'm not sure that's the guy I want to run against Trump.  

I appreciate your opinion, but also appreciate your making one of my points for me.

 

Star and progressive folks criticize Beto for being too moderate. Folks that are more centrist criticize him for being too progressive. That, to me, without knowing all the specifics, suggests he may be just right.

 

When you say he is for "open borders," what do you mean? Because in Trumpland, that means anyone that isn't in lock step with Stephen Miller's views on immigration.  Also, what kind of "gun control" is he for? I would be surprised if its anything other than background checks and mainstream stuff like that, that most Americans agree on. But honestly, I don't know.

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