OILERMAN Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 https://thinkprogress.org/more-coal-plants-shut-down-in-trumps-first-two-years-than-in-obamas-entire-first-term-e6b72f354330/ The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) reports that while 15 gigawatts of coal-fired plants were shut down in Obama’s first four years, Trump’s first two years have seen some 20 gigawatts retired (with more than two thirds of those occurring last year). As a result, U.S. coal use dropped 4 percent in 2018 to a level not seen since 1979, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 The point is, Trump didn't save the coal industry. He never could. Only the morons ate it up like those jobs were going to come back. OILERMAN, Mythos27, and pamo9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Soxcat said: Are you really this weak in reasoning skills? There was no reasoning in Oman's post. He just posted raw data. OILERMAN, and ChesterCopperpot1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Man, it's almost as if coal is an inefficient and outdated way to produce electricity. ChesterCopperpot1, ctm, and Downtown 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Legaltitan said: Man, it's almost as if coal is an inefficient and outdated way to produce electricity. And this shit head is so quick to call Democrats sheep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Coal is less efficient and outdated. Natural gas is cleaner (actual pollutants and not just CO2) and cheap. That was my point. Add in the bogus shit about global warming and it magnifies the situation. We still export a bunch of coal. So mining coal has not dropped (about the same as 1995). So the "raw data" only tells a minor portion of the whole story. The insinuation was that coal jobs were in decline (coal production has been consistent since 1990). Trump promised more coal jobs. I guess he lied then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 So where are all these new coal jobs then? OILERMAN, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Soxcat said: like I said, google it or have a friend who knows how to do it for you. Maybe between you, Madmax and Oman you can group together enough brain cells to figure it out. That didn't translate well from Rusky.. Allow me. "There are no facts and figures to back up my bullshit, so my only defense is to put the burden of proof on you and hope you just drop the subject so that I don't look even more like a Soxcat." Hope this helps. OILERMAN, and Downtown 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Soxcat said: I gave facts and figures. Coal production is up. Go back to playing with blocks and your little sister. What happened to your "Obama is picking winners and losers" slogans? Speaking of coal: "The Trump administration on Tuesday proposed greenhouse gas emissions rules for power plants that would make it easier for states to keep coal-fired facilities online. The plan would replace the Obama administration approach, which was poised to hasten the steady retirement of coal plants. The revision may help keep some plants open, but the proposal forecasts utilities will continue to retire coal-fired capacity and coal production will continue to decline. Trump has ordered Energy Secretary Rick Perry to take steps to prevent coal and nuclear power plants from retiring ahead of schedule. Federal regulators already rejected one of Perry's plans to subsidize those plants. The Energy Department has circulated a separate proposal to force regional power markets to buy more electricity from coal and nuclear plants even if that's not the most affordable option." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/trump-says-the-coal-industry-is-back-the-data-say-otherwise.html IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Soxcat said: Coal is less efficient and outdated. Natural gas is cleaner (actual pollutants and not just CO2) and cheap. That was my point. Add in the bogus shit about global warming and it magnifies the situation. We still export a bunch of coal. So mining coal has not dropped (about the same as 1995). So the "raw data" only tells a minor portion of the whole story. The insinuation was that coal jobs were in decline (coal production has been consistent since 1990). https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/quarterly/ So quick search in between meetings... pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Go back to playing with blocks and your little sister. Agreed. Far more entertaining and productive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Soxcat said: I gave facts and figures. Coal production is up. Go back to playing with blocks and your little sister. No you didn't, not to the question at large. You were asked where are all the new coal jobs and the deflection once again took center stage to cover for your bullshit arguing. Will you ever tire of being a stooge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Soxcat said: Who are "the morons"? Oh that is right. Those who believe that CO2 causes global warming. So you are right. Nobody could stop the tide of dumbasses that believe in global warming. Despite the fact it has been cooling since 1998 and the hottest decade this century was in the 1930s. Have at it dumbasses. Yes, morons basically doomed the coal industry. Lol, if I have to choose between believing fundamentalist pseudo-Christians or NASA on climate change, I think I'll stick with NASA. Starkiller, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted January 4, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Sad watching Soxcat kneel before his Orange god knowing it all ends badly Justafan, CreepingDeath, Downtown, and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Sad watching Soxcat kneel before his Orange god knowing it all ends badly Sad? Pathetic is more like it. OILERMAN, and Btowner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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