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https://theunitedstatesblues.com/pelosi-burns-republicans-to-the-ground-by-invoking-reagan-during-speech-marking-new-session-of-congress/

 

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"And we will make America more American by protecting our patriotic, courageous Dreamers!” she declared. “And when we are talking about the Dreamers let us remember what President Reagan said in his last speech as President of the United States: “If we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership role in the world would soon be lost.”

 

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Soxcat   

Who is closing the door on new Americans?  That is the imbecilic way libtards think.  So what Reagan meant was it is better to have open borders and absolutely no vetting of who comes in?  Pelosi took the quote out of context completely.  Oh, name off a socialist nation that would permit anyone coming in its borders to partake of the free stuff.  Another moronic perspective.  Even if we were more socialist wouldn't mean we want to pay for health care, education and such for Mexico.  This is all about votes for the Democrats.  Stocking the voter roles for the future.  Meanwhile those who suffer most are the downtrodden citizens here in the US.  But who gives a rats ass about them? 

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MadMax   
28 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Who is closing the door on new Americans?  That is the imbecilic way libtards think.  So what Reagan meant was it is better to have open borders and absolutely no vetting of who comes in?  Pelosi took the quote out of context completely.  Oh, name off a socialist nation that would permit anyone coming in its borders to partake of the free stuff.  Another moronic perspective.  Even if we were more socialist wouldn't mean we want to pay for health care, education and such for Mexico.  This is all about votes for the Democrats.  Stocking the voter roles for the future.  Meanwhile those who suffer most are the downtrodden citizens here in the US.  But who gives a rats ass about them? 

You really love the kool-aid.

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Justafan   

If Trump actually cared about illegal immigration he would learn from Reagan.  Trump doesn't give a damn about illegal immigration.  He wants to manipulate racists for votes  (Or is being manipulated himself, either way, doesn't matter).  What Reagan wanted was to crack down on the employers who were responsible for giving them opportunities which were the whole reason they wanted to come here in the first place.  That would stop illegal immigration pretty quick but it will never happen because Trump will never support it considering it would hurt his own businesses where he's used illegals as cheap labor for a long time.  

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/10/08/what-trump-could-learn-from-the-reagan-immigration-amnesty/

Edited by Justafan

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begooode   

There have been terms used from Trump and the echo-chamber that cannot be waved away -- infestation, breeding, dirty, etc,...  The wall is symbolic at this point and much less about border security.  History has never been kind to this kind of sentiment, and this is just another sad chapter for the US.  

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28 minutes ago, begooode said:

There have been terms used from Trump and the echo-chamber that cannot be waved away -- infestation, breeding, dirty, etc,...  The wall is symbolic at this point and much less about border security.  History has never been kind to this kind of sentiment, and this is just another sad chapter for the US.  

Yep, all the Dems were for the wall before they were against it.   Dems don't care what's best for America, only to fight against everything Trump to appease their rabid base.

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Soxcat   
52 minutes ago, Justafan said:

If Trump actually cared about illegal immigration he would learn from Reagan.  Trump doesn't give a damn about illegal immigration.  He wants to manipulate racists for votes  (Or is being manipulated himself, either way, doesn't matter).  What Reagan wanted was to crack down on the employers who were responsible for giving them opportunities which were the whole reason they wanted to come here in the first place.  That would stop illegal immigration pretty quick but it will never happen because Trump will never support it considering it would hurt his own businesses where he's used illegals as cheap labor for a long time.  

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/10/08/what-trump-could-learn-from-the-reagan-immigration-amnesty/

First of all you are a total retard if you think Trump's main support comes from "racists".  His position on this border isn't much different than Dems have had going back to Billy Clinton.  On top of that you really sound moronic now considering you say he is for it but against it.  If he had the votes and money he would have the border walled.  I'd bet many of the congressmen and Senators on both sides have considered using or used illegal labor at some point.  That is an issue and has been one for the country, not just Trump.  All of us have probably had illegal labor associated with construction and other activities we have paid for.  These are simply cheap shots. 

 

 

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begooode   
29 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Yep, all the Dems were for the wall before they were against it.   Dems don't care what's best for America, only to fight against everything Trump to appease their rabid base.

False.

 

What do you think about repub rep. William Hurd's comprehensive proposal for improved border security?

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Btowner   
1 hour ago, Little Earl said:

Yep, all the Dems were for the wall before they were against it.   Dems don't care what's best for America, only to fight against everything Trump to appease their rabid base.

False. You are just mindlessly parroting talking points.

 

What do you think of Republicans in Texas and other border states wanting border security over a wall?

 

"Just 115 miles of the 1,200-mile Texas border are fenced today, and landowners, environmentalists, security experts and Texas politicians have successfully blocked efforts to add more. The rest of the 654 miles of existing border fencing is in California, Arizona and New Mexico."

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-republicans-oppose-monolithic-border-wall-1487810283

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Justafan   
2 hours ago, Soxcat said:

First of all you are a total retard if you think Trump's main support comes from "racists".  His position on this border isn't much different than Dems have had going back to Billy Clinton.  On top of that you really sound moronic now considering you say he is for it but against it.  If he had the votes and money he would have the border walled.  I'd bet many of the congressmen and Senators on both sides have considered using or used illegal labor at some point.  That is an issue and has been one for the country, not just Trump.  All of us have probably had illegal labor associated with construction and other activities we have paid for.  These are simply cheap shots. 

 

 

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You're a fool if you can't see the blatant racism that carried Donald Trump to the White House.  Blind loyalty makes you complicit.

 

The Dems past stance on the border is a shot in the dark.  It doesn't mean a damn thing.  Just one more deflection.  

 

How do I sound moronic?  He doesn't care about actually stopping illegal immigration.  He cares about making life harder for the people he's exploited.  You see a contradiction but that's because you choose to.  Muslims, those he definitely cares about stopping from coming in.  Mexicans and others from South America, we don't like them either but we have to let someone come in and build those big beautiful towers amirite?

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Soxcat   
38 minutes ago, Justafan said:

You're a fool if you can't see the blatant racism that carried Donald Trump to the White House.  Blind loyalty makes you complicit.

 

The Dems past stance on the border is a shot in the dark.  It doesn't mean a damn thing.  Just one more deflection.  

 

How do I sound moronic?  He doesn't care about actually stopping illegal immigration.  He cares about making life harder for the people he's exploited.  You see a contradiction but that's because you choose to.  Muslims, those he definitely cares about stopping from coming in.  Mexicans and others from South America, we don't like them either but we have to let someone come in and build those big beautiful towers amirite?

Blatant racism?  Show it too me.  Yes you sound moronic.  You are calling good people racists, deplorable and all the while you defend a bunch of dumbasses that don't give a shit about Mexicans to start.  Yes, Dems don't give a rats ass about immigrants or even a wall (they were all for one until Trump wanted one). 

 

You say I deflect and you bring up racism as a motivation for Trump wanting a fucking wall.  Sorry bud but that is plain ass dumb. 

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Justafan   
22 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Blatant racism?  Show it too me.  Yes you sound moronic.  You are calling good people racists, deplorable and all the while you defend a bunch of dumbasses that don't give a shit about Mexicans to start.  Yes, Dems don't give a rats ass about immigrants or even a wall (they were all for one until Trump wanted one). 

 

You say I deflect and you bring up racism as a motivation for Trump wanting a fucking wall.  Sorry bud but that is plain ass dumb. 

Riiiiigggghhhhhtttttt.  It's my fault.  I know better than to try and reason with you on this stuff. 

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