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Played in a Saturday deep stack with 121 players, 5400 for 1st as well as a seat into the WPT main event(3700.00)

 

Amazingly get AA or KK 4 times in the first hour. I get AA the very first hand of the tournament and win the blinds($75). 

 

Then lose a big pot when I flop a set of Aces and both times I had KK an A flopped.

 

I get my stack back up to the starting stack at the first break. 

 

I steal a few blinds and hang around until my elimination hand.

 

Start with about 22k, blinds are 400-800 75 ante. A few people limp and I'm on the button with 77 and limp behind. 

 

Flop is 679 with two clubs. The big blind leads out for 3k, I make it 10k, he shoves and I call(he has me covered). He rolls over 96 for top and bottom pair, I'm 92% and he's dead to a 9. 9 on the turn!

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Number9   
16 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Played in a Saturday deep stack with 121 players, 5400 for 1st as well as a seat into the WPT main event(3700.00)

 

Amazingly get AA or KK 4 times in the first hour. I get AA the very first hand of the tournament and win the blinds($75). 

 

Then lose a big pot when I flop a set of Aces and both times I had KK an A flopped.

 

I get my stack back up to the starting stack at the first break. 

 

I steal a few blinds and hang around until my elimination hand.

 

Start with about 22k, blinds are 400-800 75 ante. A few people limp and I'm on the button with 77 and limp behind. 

 

Flop is 679 with two clubs. The big blind leads out for 3k, I make it 10k, he shoves and I call(he has me covered). He rolls over 96 for top and bottom pair, I'm 92% and he's dead to a 9. 9 on the turn!

That's painful.  Poker is a MF.  When you listed all those premo hands, I thought you were telling how you rolled to the final table.  It hell when you get AA and just win the blinds.  At least you have used up all your bad luck.  Maybe.  

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6 minutes ago, Number9 said:

That's painful.  Poker is a MF.  When you listed all those premo hands, I thought you were telling how you rolled to the final table.  It hell when you get AA and just win the blinds.  At least you have used up all your bad luck.  Maybe.  

The variance in tournament poker is brutal for sure

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

Played in a Saturday deep stack with 121 players, 5400 for 1st as well as a seat into the WPT main event(3700.00)

 

Amazingly get AA or KK 4 times in the first hour. I get AA the very first hand of the tournament and win the blinds($75). 

 

Then lose a big pot when I flop a set of Aces and both times I had KK an A flopped.

 

I get my stack back up to the starting stack at the first break. 

 

I steal a few blinds and hang around until my elimination hand.

 

Start with about 22k, blinds are 400-800 75 ante. A few people limp and I'm on the button with 77 and limp behind. 

 

Flop is 679 with two clubs. The big blind leads out for 3k, I make it 10k, he shoves and I call(he has me covered). He rolls over 96 for top and bottom pair, I'm 92% and he's dead to a 9. 9 on the turn!

So was that an online tournament?

 

Not a poker guy.  Just here in Vegas with a couple people who are so got me thinking about it.

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1 minute ago, chef said:

So was that an online tournament?

 

Not a poker guy.  Just here in Vegas with a couple people who are so got me thinking about it.

No, this is in a casino, I live about 30 minutes from two big casinos that have a lot of good tournaments

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On 3/3/2019 at 11:27 AM, OILERMAN said:

The variance in tournament poker is brutal for sure

Why is that? Just because you can get knocked out by some schmoe not knowing stats?

 

I feel that with the quantity of hands you see in tournament, it will level out the variance to a still consistently profitable level

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3 hours ago, wiscotitansfan said:

Why is that? Just because you can get knocked out by some schmoe not knowing stats?

 

I feel that with the quantity of hands you see in tournament, it will level out the variance to a still consistently profitable level

No, the reason is because you can lose several flips in a row or even lose when you have someone dominated multiple times in row before the odds even out. I saw a few years ago the guy who won player of the year in the WPT didn't have a single cash the following year. 

 

As for the 2nd part, the # of hands in a single tournament doesn't come close to evening out variance. At least not in live tournaments. That's what was so good about online tournaments, I'd play 10 tournaments at once and play maybe 30 tournaments in one day, then you can overcome it. 

 

The good news is you can also run run above expectations

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9 minutes ago, Number9 said:

I am in a horrible downswing.  Some has been bad luck and some has been bad play. 

One will often lead to the other

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

No, the reason is because you can lose several flips in a row or even lose when you have someone dominated multiple times in row before the odds even out. I saw a few years ago the guy who won player of the year in the WPT didn't have a single cash the following year. 

 

As for the 2nd part, the # of hands in a single tournament doesn't come close to evening out variance. At least not in live tournaments. That's what was so good about online tournaments, I'd play 10 tournaments at once and play maybe 30 tournaments in one day, then you can overcome it. 

 

The good news is you can also run run above expectations

That makes sense. All my friends who play for a living do it online so I guess I'm overestimating how many hands people actually typically see

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

One will often lead to the other

I just played a hand.  Tournament.  I set it up.  Bets. opens.  Loose play.  I get red QQ, 100/200  I have 3400.  Utg 228.  I'm UTG1 so I flat because the table is action.  HJ call.  Big stack raises to 1100.  UTG call.  I shove Big stack call.  He has AKos red.  Flop QJ5r turn 8, river T.

 

It happens.  I see it all the time.  I just have been winding up on the wrong end too many times.  I have reads on players.  The Big Stack maybe had something, but more chances he is overplaying his hand as he has done before.  AK is okay, but I'm decent against that hand. 56/44.  After the flop, I'm 71/29.  

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9 hours ago, Denali said:

I just found a video of @OILERMAN playing in a pickup game.  Nice pull on those Jacks.

 

 

Great movie great scene

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On 3/9/2019 at 8:43 PM, Denali said:

I just found a video of @OILERMAN playing in a pickup game.  Nice pull on those Jacks.

 

 

 

15 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Great movie great scene

I'm surprised you ever lose.

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@Number9

 

Go down to Vegas for the WSOP but don’t play tournaments.

 

Ive been down for 3 and cash games are juicy. The best time to hit is the weeks leading up to the main.

 

Any time during the MM or Monster Stack you’ll make bank in anything from 1/3-5/10.

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