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DC federal court has a sealed grand jury proceeding going on (is a Foreign Company)

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Apparently they sealed off the entire floor where the hearing is taking place, which is highly unusual. No member of Mueller's team spotted, so we don't even know if it's part of that, but it is obviously a very big fish going before the grand jury today to demand this kind of secrecy and security.

 

Speculation abounds? Trump Jr.? Javanka? I don't even know if this level would be taken for one of them. Pence?

 

EDITED to add: apparently this is a CIRCUIT, meaning appellate, court proceeding. This sounds like a high level member of the administration, or Trump himself, fighting over a subpoena.

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This article provides a little more info:

 

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2018/12/14/entire-floor-at-d-c-federal-courthouse-sealed-off-for-mystery-case/

 

Apparently there are TWO cases at issue here, titled In re: Grand Jury Subpoena. So this does deal with a high-level, highly secretive appeals court hearing regarding a grand jury subpoena. Folks have pointed out how unusual it is for how quick these cases reached the appeals court, and how unusually high the secrecy is.

 

If this is Mueller connected, and folks think it is, I don't see how it could be anything other than Trump or Pence themselves fighting a subpoena, either for documents or testimony.

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40 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

This article provides a little more info:

 

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2018/12/14/entire-floor-at-d-c-federal-courthouse-sealed-off-for-mystery-case/

 

Apparently there are TWO cases at issue here, titled In re: Grand Jury Subpoena. So this does deal with a high-level, highly secretive appeals court hearing regarding a grand jury subpoena. Folks have pointed out how unusual it is for how quick these cases reached the appeals court, and how unusually high the secrecy is.

 

If this is Mueller connected, and folks think it is, I don't see how it could be anything other than Trump or Pence themselves fighting a subpoena, either for documents or testimony.

It could be Stone or Corsi on appeal fighting a subpoena.  Both have said they won't testify.

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20 minutes ago, ctm said:

It could be Stone or Corsi on appeal fighting a subpoena.  Both have said they won't testify.

Not going to shut down a floor for them though.

 

Possibly its Mueller subpoenaing Trump's testimony and a connected appeal.

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27 minutes ago, ctm said:

It could be Stone or Corsi on appeal fighting a subpoena.  Both have said they won't testify.

No way they would go through all that for the likes of Stone and Corsi, IMO.

 

But we are all guessing here.

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@Legaltitan Rachel Maddow made an interesting point on a case that might be this indictment.  When the possible related case was heard, a single judge recused himself from the en banc panel on this.  The judge in question is a Trump appointment who during his confirmation hearing vowed that he would recuse himself from anything Russian-Trump related. 

 

 Rachel Maddow had also reported one other interesting tidbit. Judge Greg Katsas, underwent a bizarre confirmation hearing and refused to discuss anything about the nature of his prior legal work for Donald Trump in the Trump-Russia investigation and promised to recuse himself from any cases related in any way to the investigation.

 

Sure enough, he is the only judge to recuse himself in the en banc panel hearings in this sealed matter. That recusal is causing many legal experts to believe that the sealed matter is related to the Special Counsel investigation, and Politico has previously reported as much.

 

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/sealed-indictment-mystery-mueller/14737/

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More: Here is the transcript from the Rachel Maddow Show from 11-15-18 when she reported this - that is when the case was already sealed and getting public attention:

 

http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2018-11-15

 

She notes that the judge, who recused himself from this sealed indictment, vowed* he would recuse himself not from anything Trump or Russian related but from anything on which he worked when he worked at the White House for Trump when he was laying out legal defense for the President.  So..................................

 

 

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And the one judge on that court on that appeals court who has recused

himself on this issue and is not sitting in on any aspect of this case is

the old “I`m replaying the tape here” guy.  It`s Greg Katsas, it`s one

Trump appointee on that D.C. Appeals Court.  And he did, after all of that

badgering at his confirmation hearing, after all of the efforts to pin him

down, he did after all pledge to senators that he would recuse himself from

anything he had worked on in the Trump White House, including specifically

anything that he had worked on in the Russia investigation, although he

would not say exactly what that was. 

 

Remember, he said he didn`t work on the Manafort part of the Russia

investigation.  He didn`t work on the James Comey being fired part of that

investigation, but he did work on some other stuff that involved him

advising the president about Mueller`s probe.  And for whatever reason, he

is the one judge who is recused now from this mystery case that today was

the occasion for a roughly 30-page-long brief just getting filed by the

mystery lawyers.  There is the lawyers from Mueller`s team on one side. 

There is mystery lawyers on the other side representing whoever this

mystery person is who is in a big secret fight with the special counsel

over a matter that relates to Mueller`s grand jury, and we do not yet know

what it is. 

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