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http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/12/they-basically-saw-black-man-with-gun-police-kill-armed-guard-after-responding-call/

 

 

CHICAGO — It began in a way gun advocates have suggested would curtail violence. A gun comes out. Shots are fired. A “good guy with a gun” steps in to help before police can respond.

 

The tidy theoretical doesn’t account for the chaotic unknowns when police arrive and can’t tell a “good guy” with a gun from a “bad guy” with a gun.

The theory turned to grim reality at Manny’s Blue Room Bar in Robbins, Ill., outside Chicago early Sunday.

 

Police shot and killed the good guy. Jemel Roberson, 26, was working security.

 

“Everybody was screaming out, ‘He was a security guard,’ and they basically saw a black man with a gun and killed him,” witness Adam Harris told WGN.

 

The incident may become a touchstone in a persistent debateabout how places such as schools, nightclubs and houses of worship should steel themselves against gunmen.

 

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klaatu-   

If every building had a smart turret system built into the ceilings this wouldn't be a problem. Like a sprinkler system that sprinkles bullets.

 

But yeah the old NRA would have been all over this story. Back when they actually supported gun rights instead of harassing doctors and trying to foment a new civil war.

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Justafan   

Not with this BS again.  There are countless stories of violence and crime being deterred or stopped by the use of force.

 

We know that having a gun is a deterrent or security guards wouldn't carry them and the President would have no need for an armed escort.  I understand if someone wants to go live in a state where guns aren't allowed.  Fine, let em'.  Don't take away my right to protect myself and my family.  I'll never understand why someone voluntarily wants to be placed in a position where they could be completely powerless.  I will carry wherever I am allowed to until the day I die.  

 

Silly stories like this remind me that there are sheep, sheepdogs, and wolves in this world.  I know which category I choose to be in.  I don't expect everyone to understand.  

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Hey Touched, I bet a lot of these homers are calling bullshit. Snap a quick pic of some of the heat you’re packing with a ME is a moron sign and post it to prove them wrong. I’ll show you some real heat when I get home from work. Of course, with a TDGN sign attached.

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BANG BANG BANG! Get back bitch, I’m TardBo and I’m packing heat. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 

You can’t make comedy like this up. You have to wonder what goes through his wires to make him come up with shit like this.

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1 hour ago, Justafan said:

Not with this BS again.  There are countless stories of violence and crime being deterred or stopped by the use of force.

 

We know that having a gun is a deterrent or security guards wouldn't carry them and the President would have no need for an armed escort.  I understand if someone wants to go live in a state where guns aren't allowed.  Fine, let em'.  Don't take away my right to protect myself and my family.  I'll never understand why someone voluntarily wants to be placed in a position where they could be completely powerless.  I will carry wherever I am allowed to until the day I die.  

 

Silly stories like this remind me that there are sheep, sheepdogs, and wolves in this world.  I know which category I choose to be in.  I don't expect everyone to understand.  

It’s frankly more about the “good guy with the gun” isn’t automatically going to be assumed to be good if he is black. He’s just a black guy with a gun to some people...

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Justafan   
6 hours ago, Starkiller said:

It’s frankly more about the “good guy with the gun” isn’t automatically going to be assumed to be good if he is black. He’s just a black guy with a gun to some people...

Fair enough.  Different argument and I think we agree more than we disagree on that sentiment.  

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'Nator   

Fact #1 most people are fucking idiots

 

Fact #2 the more super lax the gun laws, and the bigger the gun culture becomes, the more fucking idiots have guns. 

 

I mean I don't want gun rights so restricted for the responsible because I generally believe the adage that "criminals don't abide by gun laws" 

 

but I also don't want this fucking country wide Mexican stand off where everywhere you go every dip shit is fucking strapped up and fuck the little sissy babies that cry just because some restaurant or bar doesn't want a bunch of dipshit redneck Wild Fuckin' Bills all strapped up in their drinking establishment ready to pop off any moment.  

 

"Fuckin' DENNY'S SAYS NO WEAPUNS THIS IS BULLSHIT I WONT EAT THAR NO MORE I GOTTA POST OWN FACEBOOK ABOUT THIS RIGHT AWAY MUH 2ND UHMENDMUNT RIGHTS ARE INFRIIINGED DEEEEEEEEERP".  

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7 hours ago, Starkiller said:

It’s frankly more about the “good guy with the gun” isn’t automatically going to be assumed to be good if he is black. He’s just a black guy with a gun to some people...

So then it's more about racism than ANY "good guy with a gun"?

 

Why not just say that then. It seems like you are making it out to be a race issue more than a gun issue. 

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Justafan   
9 hours ago, ManningEnvy said:

Hey Touched, I bet a lot of these homers are calling bullshit. Snap a quick pic of some of the heat you’re packing with a ME is a moron sign and post it to prove them wrong. I’ll show you some real heat when I get home from work. Of course, with a TDGN sign attached.

Fuck off.  You're nothing but a lame ass fuckwad hurling insults from your cubbyhole.  I spent more than three years in one desert or another.  I don't need to prove myself to you.

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25 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Fuck off.  You're nothing but a lame ass fuckwad hurling insults from your cubbyhole.  I spent more than three years in one desert or another.  I don't need to prove myself to you.

Hey Homers, you ever notice that when the board idiot gets bitch slapped The Tard Army kinda goes KOO KOO? Gotta have a drivers license to buy a gun Touched. First things first huh?

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Hey Touched The TardBo, one more good laugh before supper time. What deserts did you serve in and what weapons did you have assigned to you? Do you know anything about your standard issue M16?

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Justafan   
2 hours ago, ManningEnvy said:

Hey Touched The TardBo, one more good laugh before supper time. What deserts did you serve in and what weapons did you have assigned to you? Do you know anything about your standard issue M16?

We don't use M16s anymore douche nugget.  Even logistics units have mostly phased them out except in NG units.  M4 with a peq-15 and an ACOG.  2 SAWs per squad... 3 line squads plus a machine gun crew with 2 M240Bs.  

 

For the record, I served in Mosul with the 3/21 infantry back in 2003-2004 and we were around Rawah for a while as well.  Second Deployment was in Baghdad and Baquba.  Third deployment was spent at a place called Jaghato just outside Maidenshar in RC East.

 

Any other retarded questions?  How's that cubbyhole?

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