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Democratic Nomination for 2020 - UPDATED to include those who have officially announced

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5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

At least you admit it. That's why the things you say don't bother me much. You're a political animal/operative and are up-front about it, not much I can say about that. The majority of them however, are still lying about it and concern trolling. It's annoying to have to listen to people talk down to you about shit like unity when you know damn well they don't really believe in it and are just using it to try to shame you into compliance.  

 

I think the thing about Bernie though is that his staunchest supporters kind of produce this kind of thing. If they weren't so "my way or the highway" or "if you're not with me all the way, your're against me" about things, then I think there would be less trepidation about supporting his agenda. This whole mindset produces a visceral response from pragmatists or anyone who doesn't fit within the box or pass the purity test. 

 

I'm personally opposed to aspects of his agenda, but the thing that turns me off the most is the divisiveness. And yes, the Clintons of the world just stoke that and each side is feeding off the other in driving it - but you must admit that Bernie is a very divisive force in many ways and his message is demagogic against a whole class of Americans. 

 

I'd happily support Warren in the general though, because while her policy aims are similar, she is more pragmatic and unifying about it. She actually wants a bigger tent and not a smaller one. 

 

It's hard for a lot of people not to feel left out of a one-size-fits-all movement. 

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Stop showing Bloomberg polls until he is a real candidate that has to answer questions on his feet in the flesh. He is really old and has no personality. 

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The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. 

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4 minutes ago, tgo said:

The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. 


Careful what you ask for, you just might get it...

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1 hour ago, tgo said:

The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. 

The Clinton campaign floated memos about propping up Donald Trump as the "pied piper" candidate and look what happened there. 

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1 hour ago, Titans279 said:

😂

 

 

 

Haha maybe not the best attack line against Bernie for a Bloomberg endorser. 

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Again, on the "not a Democrat" argument.

 

Bloomberg didn't endorse Kerry in 2004 or Obama in 2008. He did endorse Obama in 2012 at the last minute, but he was highly critical of his first term. The guy is just not a Democrat.

 

In contrast, Bernie Sanders endorsed John Kerry in 2004, and even urged Ralph Nader not to run in 2004 and 2000. Bernie is more of a Democrat than Bloomberg.
 

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“Not only am I going to vote for John Kerry, I am going to run around this country and do everything I can to dissuade people from voting for Ralph Nader. . . . I am going to do everything I can, while I have differences with John Kerry, to make sure that he is elected.”

 

It's hilarious to me how when the shoe is on the other foot, the moderate or conservative Democrats refuse to reciprocate.

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