tgo Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) As it falls now, as I see it: Sanders: Nevada Texas California Maine Colorado Vermont Utah (wtf?) Bloomberg: Florida Arkansas North Carolina Virginia Oklahoma American Somoa Biden: South Carolina Georgia Alabama Minnesota - Klobuchar Massachusetts - Warren Bloomberg can gain ground in Texas and could move into second in CA. Edited February 14, 2020 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 hours ago, tgo said: What you always knew they were? And what’s that? Political hacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Political hacks. Guilty as charged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, tgo said: Guilty as charged. At least you admit it. That's why the things you say don't bother me much. You're a political animal/operative and are up-front about it, not much I can say about that. The majority of them however, are still lying about it and concern trolling. It's annoying to have to listen to people talk down to you about shit like unity when you know damn well they don't really believe in it and are just using it to try to shame you into compliance. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: At least you admit it. That's why the things you say don't bother me much. You're a political animal/operative and are up-front about it, not much I can say about that. The majority of them however, are still lying about it and concern trolling. It's annoying to have to listen to people talk down to you about shit like unity when you know damn well they don't really believe in it and are just using it to try to shame you into compliance. I think the thing about Bernie though is that his staunchest supporters kind of produce this kind of thing. If they weren't so "my way or the highway" or "if you're not with me all the way, your're against me" about things, then I think there would be less trepidation about supporting his agenda. This whole mindset produces a visceral response from pragmatists or anyone who doesn't fit within the box or pass the purity test. I'm personally opposed to aspects of his agenda, but the thing that turns me off the most is the divisiveness. And yes, the Clintons of the world just stoke that and each side is feeding off the other in driving it - but you must admit that Bernie is a very divisive force in many ways and his message is demagogic against a whole class of Americans. I'd happily support Warren in the general though, because while her policy aims are similar, she is more pragmatic and unifying about it. She actually wants a bigger tent and not a smaller one. It's hard for a lot of people not to feel left out of a one-size-fits-all movement. WG53, No1TitansFan, and Rolltide 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 But I was told these crunchies would never compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tgo Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, tgo said: The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. Careful what you ask for, you just might get it... Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, tgo said: The fact that Don Jr, Trump himself, Kellyanne Conway, keep pushing Bernie and downplaying Bloomberg tells you everything you need to know. The Clinton campaign floated memos about propping up Donald Trump as the "pied piper" candidate and look what happened there. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Titans279 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 IsntLifeFunny, Mythos27, and OILERMAN 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Titans279 said: Haha maybe not the best attack line against Bernie for a Bloomberg endorser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Again, on the "not a Democrat" argument. Bloomberg didn't endorse Kerry in 2004 or Obama in 2008. He did endorse Obama in 2012 at the last minute, but he was highly critical of his first term. The guy is just not a Democrat. In contrast, Bernie Sanders endorsed John Kerry in 2004, and even urged Ralph Nader not to run in 2004 and 2000. Bernie is more of a Democrat than Bloomberg. Quote “Not only am I going to vote for John Kerry, I am going to run around this country and do everything I can to dissuade people from voting for Ralph Nader. . . . I am going to do everything I can, while I have differences with John Kerry, to make sure that he is elected.” It's hilarious to me how when the shoe is on the other foot, the moderate or conservative Democrats refuse to reciprocate. MadMax, OILERMAN, Mythos27, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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