pat Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, oldschool said: Winning debates doesnt matter. Clinton destroyed Trump remember? Warren has a strong Twitter game though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Long article with a few perspectives on Medicare for All and big labor Joe Biden and other moderate Democratic candidates opposed to “Medicare for All” have cast the plan as anti-labor, arguing it would leave union members worse off by stripping them of the health care benefits they painstakingly negotiated. But not all labor unions agree. Only a few major unions have come out against the single-payer system that would all but eliminate private insurance, while many others remain undecided and some of the biggest labor groups in the country have embraced the plan. Those supporting Medicare for All — or at least not yet ruling it out — say health care increasingly dominates contract battles, consuming bargaining power that could instead be directed toward raising wages and improving working conditions,... https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/11/joe-biden-medicare-for-all-unions-1456179 Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Starkiller said: Yeah, you guys who want to keeps things status quo probably don’t like her... Right. More of the same old bullshit is not what our country needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 hours ago, OILERMAN said: WWEXIT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 15 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Meh. I don’t think so. Neither of those people voted for him in 2016, and the dude is still gonna vote for him. Therefore there’s no net loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 22 hours ago, tgo said: It really is amazing to me how successful Bernie has been at moving the Democrats left. Endorsing universal free pre-K to own the socialists! Bernie's made the centrist Democratic position, well except for Biden, some form of universal health care and free pre-K (among many other big moves left on virtually every issue). If this holds up he'll be one of the most consequential left politicians in a very long time (have to say left since he's "not a Democrat"). Much bigger than Clinton or even Obama potentially. oldschool, and OILERMAN 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, Titans279 said: It really is amazing to me how successful Bernie has been at moving the Democrats left. Endorsing universal free pre-K to own the socialists! Bernie's made the centrist Democratic position, well except for Biden, some form of universal health care and free pre-K (among many other big moves left on virtually every issue). If this holds up he'll be one of the most consequential left politicians in a very long time (have to say left since he's "not a Democrat"). Much bigger than Clinton or even Obama potentially. What do you mean by that? Biden wants free community college and free pre-school. He also supports universal healthcare by way of a public option to cover anyone who doesn't like their private plan or doesn't have health insurance. And yes, there is absolutely no doubt at how much Sanders has moved the political spectrum in a short period of time. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, tgo said: What do you mean by that? Biden wants free community college and free pre-school. He also supports universal healthcare by way of a public option to cover anyone who doesn't like their private plan or doesn't have health insurance. And yes, there is absolutely no doubt at how much Sanders has moved the political spectrum in a short period of time. Just that his plan isn’t universal health care since it doesn’t cover everyone. Even he admits it would leave some people uncovered. It’s still way closer than anything has been in the US but still technically falls a little short of universal health care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Titans279 said: Just that his plan isn’t universal health care since it doesn’t cover everyone. Even he admits it would leave some people uncovered. It’s still way closer than anything has been in the US but still technically falls a little short of universal health care. Yeah, it's universal sans like 2-4%, but yes, technically correct. The other non-MFA plans are just not being honest about the small % that would be left out of any non single payer plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Another long, left-leaning article on Big Labor and the major Dem candidates, dated July 15. http://inthesetimes.com/features/democrats-2020-candidates-labor-stances-union-endorsements.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Really hope Steyer does not last long in this race. pamo9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 DNC needs to raise the polling requirement for the 4th debate. I'd say 4% in 3 qualified polls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, ctm said: DNC needs to raise the polling requirement for the 4th debate. I'd say 4% in 3 qualified polls. Apparently it’s the exact same requirements as the 3rd debate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 19 hours ago, patsplat said: Warren has a strong Twitter game though Elizabeth Warren is a hate-peddling pathological liar who shouldn’t be within 10 miles of the Oval Office. Warren tweet: "5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on." begooode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starkiller Posted August 13, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Elizabeth Warren is a hate-peddling pathological liar who shouldn’t be within 10 miles of the Oval Office. You misspelled “Donald Trump”... MadMax, WG53, 1yardshort, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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