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The Lakers moving up from #11 to #4 in the lottery isn't nearly as significant as Memphis and New Orleans moving from #8 to #2 or #7 to #1.

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8 minutes ago, Oiler FANatic said:

The Lakers moving up from #11 to #4 in the lottery isn't nearly as significant as Memphis and New Orleans moving from #8 to #2 or #7 to #1.

Isn't there a drop-off in talent after the first three picks?

 

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29 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said:

I'll take that result for everyone but Lopez Being disappointing. Nice to have Brogdon back but can't say he wow'd me

Both the Warriors and Bucks have a lot of free agents this summer including guys like Durant, Thompson, and Cousins. Golden State will most likely be able to keep only Klay Thompson while Milwaukee has many more decisions to make regarding whom they lose or retain in free agency.

 

Losing Pau Gasol won't hurt them in the least, but Mirotic and Lopez are UFA's while Brogdon is a RFA. Then there's whether or not they choose to keep George Hill at $18M next season or save $17M by cutting him, but the way he's playing right now they'll strongly consider keeping him.

 

The only top teams that don't really need to worry about losing too many of their key players in free agency are Houston and the Thunder. But OKC would love to get out from under Westbrick's massive $207M contract which is far worse than the $160M contract the Rockets gave to CP3.

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2 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said:

Of course you turn this back into a thread about how great Houston will be 🙄

Their only big loss this summer will be likely Austin Rivers, he should be a lot easier to replace than guys like Durant or Cousins. Right?

 

Then you have guys like Kyrie leaving Boston while Jimmy Butler and/or Tobias Harris will probably be leaving Philly. Just to name a few.

 

A lot of the top free agents available will go to teams like the Knicks and other bad teams who have cap space, bringing more parity to the NBA.

 

But if you had to be a team that has most of its top players under contract, would you honestly choose OKC over Houston? Only a fool like Jake would.

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1 hour ago, Oiler FANatic said:

The Lakers moving up from #11 to #4 in the lottery isn't nearly as significant as Memphis and New Orleans moving from #8 to #2 or #7 to #1.

Lakers landing #4 is way more significant because NO is about to lose their best player and Memphis is an average team. They have nothing else working for them. Neither are going to land any big FAs. Lakers have money, LBJ and now the #4 pick. I’d take their off season hand over all the non playoff teams. 

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2 hours ago, Oiler FANatic said:

Just like they did so well drafting D'Angelo Russell (who had to go to Brooklyn before people stopped considering him a major bust), Brandon Ingram, and Lonzo Ball? They were all #2 overall picks and how have they worked out so far for the Lakers? Maybe they will only screw up half as much with the #4 overall pick next month. Who ever they get it won't be anyone like Zion or Ja Morant, the drop off after those two is substantial.

You think? I remember when Fultz was as coveted as Morant. How's he doing? We could have always done worse and if idiots like you are going to keep writing an ending to players careers 2 or 3 seasons in, you're going to continue to look like a fool. 

 

How well is Harden looking like Kobe at this point?

2 hours ago, Oiler FANatic said:

 

Their best pick besides Russell in the past 5 years was Julius Randle, who will be teammates with Zion and Anthony Davis next season.

He will be opting out. Randle and Russell have turned into pretty damn good players. Just a matter of time before Ingram and Ball are there. I'm sure you didn't see BI averaging 25+ after the AS break...

2 hours ago, Oiler FANatic said:

 

Unfortunately 34-year old LeBron James is no longer playing at an elite level like 36-year old Justin Verlander is with the Astros. Too bad for LA.

Offensively speaking, he was. Its his defense that's the problem and it's more of an effort thing than an ability thing. 

 

I'll take 27, 8, and 8 again next year. Not like Harden or the Rockets gain any ground on his or the Lakers legacy this year. Too bad you have to dig into baseball to get a got ya in basketball. 

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2 hours ago, rns90 said:

Isn't there a drop-off in talent after the first three picks?

 

Isnt that what they said in 17 after Ball, Tatum, Fultz, and Fox?

 

Then you had guys like John Collins, Donovan Mithcell, Kyle Kuzma, Lauri Markennan. 

 

Really depends on who you ask. Garland, Reddish, and Hunter are all very solid players. I personally like PJ Washington quite a bit. Hes a big that can run and stretch the floor. And his ability to finish through contact is extremely good. And Culver out of TX Tech is someone to watch.

 

Besides, everyone knows LA will end up trading it. Regardless of where the talent drops off, 4 is more valuable than 7 or 8 let alone 11. 

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Grizzlies with Jaren Jackson and Ja Morant is a nice solid start on a paper. Jaren could see a big jump in his game next season. He was a solid rookie, and showed flashes of dominance at times.

 

They’ll probably resign Valenciunas (sp?). Add in a good pick or potential player when they trade Conley, and you may very well have something special starting there.

 

C-Valenciunas

PF-Jackson

SF-SlowMo

SG-??? (Pick from wherever Conley goes)

PG-Morant

 

Thats a nice fairly young team that could be entertaining while they suffer though another bad season/growing pains.  

 

They might even be able to snag a FA next off-season with all the money coming off their books IIRC.

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1 hour ago, TitansFan777 said:

Grizzlies with Jaren Jackson and Ja Morant is a nice solid start on a paper. Jaren could see a big jump in his game next season. He was a solid rookie, and showed flashes of dominance at times.

 

They’ll probably resign Valenciunas (sp?). Add in a good pick or potential player when they trade Conley, and you may very well have something special starting there.

 

C-Valenciunas

PF-Jackson

SF-SlowMo

SG-??? (Pick from wherever Conley goes)

PG-Morant

 

Thats a nice fairly young team that could be entertaining while they suffer though another bad season/growing pains.  

 

They might even be able to snag a FA next off-season with all the money coming off their books IIRC.

If Memphis wants to get in the playoffs they will need 2-3 years and players to develop into legit players. The west is too good and there aren’t many teams currently on the decline. Sac, Dal, Lakers and Minn have the upper hand on them in the re building mode. 

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3 hours ago, CaliTitan3518 said:

If Memphis wants to get in the playoffs they will need 2-3 years and players to develop into legit players. The west is too good and there aren’t many teams currently on the decline. Sac, Dal, Lakers and Minn have the upper hand on them in the re building mode. 

That’s true, but the Grizzlies are still at the very start of the rebuild (and after the Conley trade/draft) could be much further ahead in their rebuild than anticipated, whereas most of those teams you mentioned are done or are almost done rebuilding except for Dallas.

 

However, the biggest need right now should be trading Conley (ideally to Boston to get their pick for 2020/2021 back) and using Chandler Parsons massive expiring to get another asset. 

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3 hours ago, TitansFan777 said:

That’s true, but the Grizzlies are still at the very start of the rebuild (and after the Conley trade/draft) could be much further ahead in their rebuild than anticipated, whereas most of those teams you mentioned are done or are almost done rebuilding except for Dallas.

 

However, the biggest need right now should be trading Conley (ideally to Boston to get their pick for 2020/2021 back) and using Chandler Parsons massive expiring to get another asset. 

Ya it will be interesting what happens with or what they can get for Conley. It’s just so hard to rebuild without any proven pieces in a small market. 

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