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I do think it's too early to completely panic

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Only reason I’m not panicking is because there were several times last year I didn’t believe this team could beat anyone. And yet, they went to the divisional round of the playoffs. 

 

Also, those who were expecting a down year due to Vrabel are lying to themselves. I’m expecting him to at least match Mularkey.

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I like the optimism, but I don't think it's too early to panic. We have a banged up QB who's confidence is shot who will be playing without his two best offensive lineman. Our best receiver Walker is out for the year, leaving us with Corey Davis and a bunch of nobodys. Aside from a few big runs last year, the running game has been atrocious over the last year and it continued this past Sunday. I'm not expecting it to be any better with Lewan and Conklin out. On defense, our front 7 was over matched, not getting any pressure on the QB and letting Ryan Tannehill and 40 year old Frank Gore gash us up.

 

To make matters worse, we have the Texans, Eagles (Wentz should be back) and Jags the next three games, with the Ravens, Chargers, Cowboys, and Patriots in 4 of the 5 games afterwards. Mariota and the offense is going to get destroyed, and there's going to be a lot of anger and pessimism on the board over this time.   

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15 hours ago, tgo said:

I think a lot of fans were expecting a new staff to come in and turn the team around and that Mularkey and company were holding the team back from its potential. 

 

I knew when they fired Mularkey and replaced him with a first time HC that this year would essentially be a rebuilding year. You had a staff with centuries of NFL experience and replaced them with a lot of first time coaches. The vast majority of this coaching staff are either first time position coaches or first time NFL coaches, so they’re all learning how to coach in the NFL. 

 

This is in addition to the fact that switching from an Erhardt Perkins power offense to a Shanahan West Coast zone scheme is a very steep transition. We have guys at every position playing totally different techniques than most have in their careers, particularly at QB. This is a big transition for QBs, OL, TEs. WRs running totally different stuff as well. This offense relies much more on timing and communication between QBs and receivers. This takes time to develop. 

 

Further, the prior coaching staff ran “highly schemed” (as Cosell called it) offense and defense. To make a long story short, this resulted in reliance on scheme moreso than players to run the ball, to stop the run, to generate a pass rush with stunts and blitzes, to create confusion with complex coverages, and to run a lot of trickery on offense. This fact (and I’m not saying it’s the best way to go necessarily) means that a lot of personnel deficiencies were covered up - which basically meant the team in general had a lower ceiling but higher floor. 

 

With our schedule, we were never going to the playoffs this year or competing for a Superbowl - it was always going to be a year of development and re-tooling *especially* the first quarter or first half of the year. These young coaches require development and the players require development as well. And I hope I have to eat my words on this. Hopefully I look totally stupid and we end up being heavy hitters this year.

 

If you listen to Robinson’s TV and radio interviews right after the Vrabel hire, it is totally obvious that he is trying to pump the brakes on expectations and knows that it’s a one step back to take two steps forward kind of deal.

 

It is critically important though, for the team and for Mariota, that fans are patient. We cannot keep fucking cycling through coaching staffs every two years, it’s a piss poor way to run a franchise and guarantees failure. 

 

I plan to be patient (pissing and moaning only occasionally) and to try to keep perspective as we watch the development of the younger players and watch the team grow within the new schemes. I’m expecting a pretty good draft pick this year, but next year we need to be in full blown contention. 

Or maybe people are doing exactly what they said they weren't going to do in the offseason.  Judge the team by the early games.  Everyone seemed to agree, except for the loons, that the offense would take some time to get its feet.  Everything is new.  The defense was disappointing early, but this first game is a crap shoot since these guys hardly play in the preseason.  After the first break, the defense shut down the rushing attack.  I'm giving the team some time to jell.

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30 minutes ago, ap24786 said:

I like the optimism, but I don't think it's too early to panic. We have a banged up QB who's confidence is shot who will be playing without his two best offensive lineman. Our best receiver Walker is out for the year, leaving us with Corey Davis and a bunch of nobodys. Aside from a few big runs last year, the running game has been atrocious over the last year and it continued this past Sunday. I'm not expecting it to be any better with Lewan and Conklin out. On defense, our front 7 was over matched, not getting any pressure on the QB and letting Ryan Tannehill and 40 year old Frank Gore gash us up.

 

To make matters worse, we have the Texans, Eagles (Wentz should be back) and Jags the next three games, with the Ravens, Chargers, Cowboys, and Patriots in 4 of the 5 games afterwards. Mariota and the offense is going to get destroyed, and there's going to be a lot of anger and pessimism on the board over this time.   

Texans were 4-13 last year and didn't make a lot of changes

the Jags have a great def but no offense and the Titans play them tight

The Chargers are the Chargers

The Cowboys are in trouble. Prescott can't carry a team and they have no weapons outside of Elliot

 

The only sure fire losses in the group you noted are the Pats and Eagles. 

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6 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Texans were 4-13 last year and didn't make a lot of changes

the Jags have a great def but no offense and the Titans play them tight

The Chargers are the Chargers

The Cowboys are in trouble. Prescott can't carry a team and they have no weapons outside of Elliot

 

The only sure fire losses in the group you noted are the Pats and Eagles. 

A couple of years ago at this time the only surefire losses on the horizon were Green Bay and Denver, and maybe KC.

We all saw how that turned out.

 

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Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

A couple of years ago at this time the only surefire losses on the horizon were Green Bay and Denver, and maybe KC.

We all saw how that turned out.

 

Fine. Likely losses then. I don't think the Titans are worse than the Chargers, Cowboys, and Ravens talent wise. 

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7 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Fine. Likely losses then. I don't think the Titans are worse than the Chargers, Cowboys, and Ravens talent wise. 

Agreed.

All I am saying is it's too early in the season to make any predictions of a sure fire nature.

 

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12 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Texans were 4-13 last year and didn't make a lot of changes

the Jags have a great def but no offense and the Titans play them tight

The Chargers are the Chargers

The Cowboys are in trouble. Prescott can't carry a team and they have no weapons outside of Elliot

 

The only sure fire losses in the group you noted are the Pats and Eagles. 

Texans: Uh, they lost Deshaun. I do think he's a bit overrated, but their season was done after that. He's going to light us up again this week because we won't get any pressure on him.

 

Jags: Still the best defense in the league. If Bortles plays even average, they win. 

 

Chargers: Chargers are a super bowl contender this year.

 

Cowboys: I'm not worried about Dak. I'm worried about our front 7 and how Zeke and that running game will run all over us. And that's when Dak is at his best when he has time to throw. 

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1 minute ago, ap24786 said:

Texans: Uh, they lost Deshaun. I do think he's a bit overrated, but their season was done after that. He's going to light us up again this week because we won't get any pressure on him.

 

Jags: Still the best defense in the league. If Bortles plays even average, they win. 

 

Chargers: Chargers are a super bowl contender this year.

 

Cowboys: I'm not worried about Dak. I'm worried about our front 7 and how Zeke and that running game will run all over us. And that's when Dak is at his best when he has time to throw. 

The Titans and Jags are a wash.

Chargers a superbowl contender? The Chargers can't get out of their own way. 

Cowboys OL is not what it was. Their offense is a mess

Texans with Watson? He was bad yesterday against a bad Pats pass rush. 

 

Obviously the Titans have to play way better than they did this past week no matter who the opponent is but you are acting like this wasn't a 9-7 team last year with upgraded talent (Butler, Lewis, Evans, landry, hleathy Davis, etc...) I expect them to be around 9 wins this year as well.

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

The Titans and Jags are a wash.

Chargers a superbowl contender? The Chargers can't get out of their own way. 

Cowboys OL is not what it was. Their offense is a mess

Texans with Watson? He was bad yesterday against a bad Pats pass rush. 

 

Obviously the Titans have to play way better than they did this past week no matter who the opponent is but you are acting like this wasn't a 9-7 team last year with upgraded talent (Butler, Lewis, Evans, landry, hleathy Davis, etc...) I expect them to be around 9 wins this year as well.

I'm still holding to my 8-8 prediction. 

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Agreed with oldschool. I would be thrilled if went 4-4 to start this season, because I think we'll be improving in the second half. However, if we only win 2-3 of the first 8 games, I won't be surprised at all.

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The offensive line has been so inconsistent since the start of last season. Why Mariota has regressed is beyond me. Says its something about his footing or whatever else. Got a 42 year old brand new head coach who has only one season under his belt as a defensive coordinator. Dean Pees should've stayed retired, and this LaFleur kid clearly wasn't the guy who was really behind the Rams offense last year. I don't see a bright future in Nashville.

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