Questions around Mariota overshadow a really poor start for Vrabel

[bizzyeddie]

my thought was to kick the FG just to piss off the offense.   They haven't earned the right to be trusted to go for it yet.

[wiscotitansfan]

4 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Instead we let them drive 98 yards?  Ridiculous.  In fact the odds of any team getting any points at all starting form their own 2 yard line are maybe 10%.  Normally that is why it is not a bad call to go for it down there that early in the game. 

More importantly the defense gave them free yards that opened up the entire playbook for the offense to start that drive. Completely unacceptable when the redeeming part of going for the TD is that you have a MUCH easier chance at forcing a 3 and out.

[JoelinBellevue]

54 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Vrabel's first game as HC and also the first game our OC was calling the plays.  The 98 yard drive pissed me off more than anything.  Pees made some adjustments and we stuffed the run better in the 2nd half but part of going for it on 4th down is the expectation you can still have a shot at good field position and at minimum a FG even if you don't get it. 

 

So think it through.  Say you have a 50% shot at converting 4th down (about the % teams convert a 2 pt conversion).  Then say you expect to hold the Dolphins to a punt before they cross our 20 yard line.  Again, maybe a 50% or better chance of that since most teams play it conservative out of their own goal line.  The odds are pretty good at minimal we have a shot of getting that FG back.  Instead we let them drive 98 yards?  Ridiculous.  In fact the odds of any team getting any points at all starting form their own 2 yard line are maybe 10%.  Normally that is why it is not a bad call to go for it down there that early in the game. 

The Fisher bible. Percentages.

[Face]

6 hours ago, oldschool said:

Miami sucks don't be fooled. The fact the Titans almost won despite giving up a KO return, a 75 yard bomb, key injuries to Lewan and Mariot, and playing like complete dog shit tells me Miami is who most of us thought they were.

I don't think they're very good obviously but Cutler made them look so much worse last year, he just didn't care. And Tannehill is a good QB that's had nothing around him his entire career. And I'll tell you, Miami may have drafted the better Bama back, I forgot how good Kenyon Drake ended last season, when he got starting snaps:

23/120

25/114

16/78

13/57

14/75

 

However, there was no excuse for Gore destroying us.

 

Tell you though man, I just want a good goddamn defense already. It's been YEARS. And I'm still optimistic. We still have 3 good corners which most teams can't say they have. No,  one are "elite" but Butler played at a pro bowl level in '15 & '16 & that pick in the end zone was a thing of beauty. As for the TD sometimes you have to give the other guys credit. That was an absolutely exquisite ball by Tannehill. Plus, he had all day off play action. Stills is a very good deep threat & Butler was all over him. What are you gonna do?

[Huston]

The run defense will come around that's more about fits but what they need is a consistent pass rush, we need Evans and Landry in the rotation if not starting.

[Pragidealist]

Pretty impressed by his press conf actually... surprisingly so. 

[Kirkster]

9 hours ago, Face said:

Let's also get one thing straight....firing Mularkey for Vrabel was absolutely the correct move. 

I would ice that comment for now. Not buying it. Let’s see how we do the first month or so.

[No1TitansFan]

  A lot of staffs used the same strategy this TC, limit reps for your starters and hold anybody out who has any kind of injury that could possibly be aggravated at the peril of having to deal with uneven level of play come game 1. Dallas offense looked like shit along with Philly and many others, Green Bay looked like crap for the first half and was lucky Chicago choked and couldn't convert a first down late.

[OILERMAN]

Vrabel did have a pretty weird moment in the presser today. 

 

First of all he acted like he was surprised to learn the QB could get hit when he's acting out a fake. I knew that and thought it was pretty well known. Then when discussing how to protect the QB.

 

Vrabel said the Titans and Mariota can do things moving forward to protect Mariota.

“Marcus knows ways to protect himself,” Vrabel said. “Clearly, letting the defender know and the official know that you don’t have the ball. …

 

When you're acting out a fake and pretending to have the ball how do you let the defender know you don't have the ball?

[tgo]

2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Vrabel did have a pretty weird moment in the presser today. 

 

First of all he acted like he was surprised to learn the QB could get hit when he's acting out a fake. I knew that and thought it was pretty well known. Then when discussing how to protect the QB.

 

Vrabel said the Titans and Mariota can do things moving forward to protect Mariota.

“Marcus knows ways to protect himself,” Vrabel said. “Clearly, letting the defender know and the official know that you don’t have the ball. …

 

When you're acting out a fake and pretending to have the ball how do you let the defender know you don't have the ball?

How about don’t run many RPOs. 

 

It was funny that he said he told Dean Pees to make sure we started doing that to other teams. Kind of makes you wonder. 

[OILERMAN]

Just now, tgo said:

How about don’t run many RPOs. 

 

It was funny that he said he told Dean Pees to make sure we started doing that to other teams. Kind of makes you wonder. 

Yea it was pretty weird. Why weren't we already doing that and why doesn't he know the basic rules?

[tgo]

Just now, OILERMAN said:

Yea it was pretty weird. Why weren't we already doing that and why doesn't he know the basic rules?

Lol exactly

[japan]

8 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Vrabel did have a pretty weird moment in the presser today. 

 

First of all he acted like he was surprised to learn the QB could get hit when he's acting out a fake. I knew that and thought it was pretty well known. Then when discussing how to protect the QB.

 

Vrabel said the Titans and Mariota can do things moving forward to protect Mariota.

“Marcus knows ways to protect himself,” Vrabel said. “Clearly, letting the defender know and the official know that you don’t have the ball. …

 

When you're acting out a fake and pretending to have the ball how do you let the defender know you don't have the ball?

i thought the same thing.  You have to fool people into thinking you have the ball.

[Titans279]

1 minute ago, tgo said:

Lol exactly

What's your opinion of Mariota?

Is he a bad Bortles like QB as OMAN says?

[AussieTitanFan08]

i'm keen to see how Vrabel goes this week, he should have plenty of inside info on the Texans team, would be really disappointed if we aren't better defensively this week.