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I'm happy he figured it out.

 

Eddie George is the reason I became a Titans fan and it's shocking that Henry started to show similar fight and lateral quickness after the pep talk.

 

Hope it continues.

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26 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

They started the season with Henry as the starter, he lost that job on his own accord. Had he played well from the start he would have kept his job. 

 

I think Lewis def played too many snaps and became less effective but Henry didn't make anyone look silly, it was more like he saved his career. He was brutally honest about his own struggles 

Oh, he definitely made Lewis look silly. It’s not like the two are independent thoughts. 

 

Also, MANY players are usually “brutally honest” about their struggles and their own play. Don’t act like Henry’s is some outlier. 

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1 minute ago, StephenIsLegend said:

Oh, he definitely made Lewis look silly.

Downtown said Henry made the coaches look silly, not Lewis

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I love Henry & wanted him to be the starter since Opening Day last year. Sure he had some flaws but I just thought he was so big, so fast, that he was too unique not to feature. And he finally put it together to close out the year & show how awesome he can be. I'm pumped for next year.

 

That said, and maybe it's been mentioned a few times here, the OL was a totally different animal then it was the first 10 games or so. Kelly was a huge improvement over a clearly not a 100% Conklin, Lewan finished up with his best stretch of the year & Ben Jones has become a pretty nice center.

 

The TE's also did a 180. Pruitt was a monster blocker & Stocker picked it up as well. Pruitt is a real keeper.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Face said:

I love Henry & wanted him to be the starter since Opening Day last year. Sure he had some flaws but I just thought he was so big, so fast, that he was too unique not to feature. And he finally put it together to close out the year & show how awesome he can be. I'm pumped for next year.

 

That said, and maybe it's been mentioned a few times here, the OL was a totally different animal then it was the first 10 games or so. Kelly was a huge improvement over a clearly not a 100% Conklin, Lewan finished up with his best stretch of the year & Ben Jones has become a pretty nice center.

 

The TE's also did a 180. Pruitt was a monster blocker & Stocker picked it up as well. Pruitt is a real keeper.

 

 

Give the kid some daylight and watch what happens. 

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11 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Downtown said Henry made the coaches look silly, not Lewis

The coaches, and many on this board blamed Henry for the running game issues (apparently even looked to trade him) when in truth it was the OL and maybe some scheme - play calling that was the problem.  Lewis never was real successful running the ball either.  Henry didn't even start the Jags game where he ended up with over 200 yards.  The guy literally had to tie an NFL record with a 99 yard beast run and rush for over 200 yards for the dumbass coaching staff to figure out the guy needed carries.  The games leading up to that game had Henry running for close to 5.0 yards a carry.  In 155 attempts for the year Lewis had a 3.3 YPC average.  Henry ended up running for over 1000 yards, almost 5.0 YPC and 12 TDs. 

 

10 hours ago, Face said:

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The TE's also did a 180. Pruitt was a monster blocker & Stocker picked it up as well. Pruitt is a real keeper.

 

This is spot on. 

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1 hour ago, StephenIsLegend said:

Your post said he didn’t make anyone look silly. 

Isn't it funny how the people screaming that Henry didn't make anyone look silly are all the same people that Henry made look the silliest?

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4 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Isn't it funny how the people screaming that Henry didn't make anyone look silly are all the same people that Henry made look the silliest?

Just like those saying that he has been that aggressive and running through people his whole career? It wasn't playoff KC, All the Jags games and whatever the follow up to Jacksonville that the blocking was finally adequate!!

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17 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said:

Just like those saying that he has been that aggressive and running through people his whole career? It wasn't playoff KC, All the Jags games and whatever the follow up to Jacksonville that the blocking was finally adequate!!

I've been saying since last year that if he gets blocking he will produce. This isn't anything new.I'm open to the idea that Henry made some changes but I still maintain that those changes would have yielded little to no production if the OL situation didn't improve. The runs where the blocking wasn't there during his great run looked very similar to the ones before the bye. Either way, it's tough to look silly when your analysis of a situation turns out to be more on point than the people disagreeing with you. Before the season, I said Henry would end the year with about 1,000 yards and 8 TDs. The people on the other side of that predicted he'd end up riding the bench because Lewis would expose how much he sucks. But yeah, you're totally right, it was me who was WAY off...

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7 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

I've been saying since last year that if he gets blocking he will produce. This isn't anything new.I'm open to the idea that Henry made some changes but I still maintain that those changes would have yielded little to no production if the OL situation didn't improve. The runs where the blocking wasn't there during his great run looked very similar to the ones before the bye. Either way, it's tough to look silly when your analysis of a situation turns out to be more on point than the people disagreeing with you. Before the season, I said Henry would end the year with about 1,000 yards and 8 TDs. The people on the other side of that predicted he'd end up riding the bench because Lewis would expose how much he sucks. But yeah, you're totally right, I was WAY off...

I never said you were WAY off... I'm just saying that people look pretty damn silly by just screaming the notion that the only reason his play improved was because the blocking was better..... There are plenty of those fucking morons that try to act like he's run that way in the pros since day 1.

 

You don't go from getting benched to looking like the best back in the league only with a little better blocking, it clearly was both aspects of the running game improving... Blocking AND Henry, I don't get why more people try to pigeon hole it as one or the other.

 

Anytime some asshat takes a stance on one side of the fence they look pretty damn foolish

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5 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said:

I never said you were WAY off... I'm just saying that people look pretty damn silly by just screaming the notion that the only reason his play improved was because the blocking was better..... There are plenty of those fucking morons that try to act like he's run that way in the pros since day 1.

 

You don't go from getting benched to looking like the best back in the league only with a little better blocking, it clearly was both aspects of the running game improving... Blocking AND Henry, I don't get why more people try to pigeon hole it as one or the other.

 

Anytime some asshat takes a stance on one side of the fence they look pretty damn foolish

Agree. Blocking improved and Henry improved. To say it’s one or the other is foolish. Not only was he running harder but when he had success you could tell he was running with confidence. He knew people couldn’t tackle him if he ran that way. It’s pretty rare to have a successful run game without both aspects. Some RBs can manage decent seasons without consistent OL play but no where near what they could produce with good OL play. 

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1 minute ago, wiscotitansfan said:

I never said you were WAY off... I'm just saying that people look pretty damn silly by just screaming the notion that the only reason his play improved was because the blocking was better..... There are plenty of those fucking morons that try to act like he's run that way in the pros since day 1.

 

You don't go from getting benched to looking like the best back in the league only with block, it clearly was both aspects of the running game improving... Blocking AND Henry, I don't get why more people try to pigeon hole it as one or the other.

 

Anytime some asshat takes a stance on one side of the fence they look pretty damn foolish

You won't like this but I gotta disagree with you a little here. I've seen plenty of really good backs look like utter shit behind a bad OL that gives him no room and conversely some pretty pedestrian backs look really good because the OL is opening huge holes. I get what you're saying that there is certainly and interplay between the two, however, I personally believe that for a turn around that big to occur, you have to really look at the OL. It's just hard for me to believe that a player in his third year can all of a sudden become someone else. 

 

In short, I think that everyone agrees that the improvement of the running game can be attributed to the blocking AND Henry; where people disagree is how much can be attributed to each. 

 

There is a vast possibility that I'm wrong on this and I'm open to it.This is just my understanding of the situation as it stands. I can be convinced otherwise. Ultimately, it's kind of a pointless argument because OL and RB play are so interconnected that we may never really know the truth.

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6 minutes ago, CaliTitan3518 said:

Agree. Blocking improved and Henry improved. To say it’s one or the other is foolish. Not only was he running harder but when he had success you could tell he was running with confidence. He knew people couldn’t tackle him if he ran that way. It’s pretty rare to have a successful run game without both aspects. Some RBs can manage decent seasons without consistent OL play but no where near what they could produce with good OL play. 

I will say that this particular change is pretty undeniable even if you credit the OL more like I do. After the Jags game the guy was clearly oozing confidence. He looked like he did at Bama. I actually hope that I'm wrong in thinking that it was mostly the OL because an OL as a unit is much more likely to change than an individual player. Hopefully. it's true that some magical thing "clicked" with Henry and there is no going back because if I'm right, we may be a an OL injury or two away from going right back to 3.0 yards per carry games. 

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5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

In short, I think that everyone agrees that the improvement of the running game can be attributed to the blocking AND Henry

I agree with everything you said but this.... There ARE people who claim that Henry has run this way his whole career.

 

Of course we disagree on the extent that each have improved and I'm not necessarily calling you out, just that there are some retards who claim that its only on the OL and it was just OL and opportunity that was holding Henry back and he looks like the same player we've always seen.

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