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Cory Booker acknowledged that he violated Senate rules. He released an email this morning during the SCOTUS hearing with confidential (maybe classified) info on Kavanaugh. The Senator from Hawaii promptly followed. This could result in the removal of Booker from the Senate. He went a step further and doubled down daring them to bring charges on him and even told the Republican Senator from Texas to "Bring it." Very ballsy move by Booker. If you have followed the back story of this, you know why Booker, and other Democratic Senators, back him. Right or wrong, very gutsy move. That my friend is a leader for the American people.

 

MOD EDIT: Documents had been cleared for release.

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6 minutes ago, Titanjuicy said:

Cory Booker acknowledged that he violated Senate rules. He released an email this morning during the SCOTUS hearing with confidential (maybe classified) info on Kavanaugh. The Senator from Hawaii promptly followed. This could result in the removal of Booker from the Senate. He went a step further and doubled down daring them to bring charges on him and even told the Republican Senator from Texas to "Bring it." Very ballsy move by Booker. If you have followed the back story of this, you know why Booker, and other Democratic Senators, back him. Right or wrong, very gutsy move. That my friend is a leader for the American people.

 

Read the emails, at least the ones in the article released by the NYT. Very curious to potentially risk expulsion based on those particular emails. (I'd go so far to say they're nothingburgers). It's very obvious that he's running for President in 2020. There's far too much political theater during this Kavanaugh hearing. Unnecessary for the administration to hold back so many documents, and unnecessary for some of these Democrats to make such a show out of what we've seen so far (unless there's more).

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1 minute ago, Cyrus said:

 

 Very curious to potentially risk expulsion based on those particular emails.

Takes 67 votes I think.  Not possible, if so. 

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Just now, Starkiller said:

This entire confirmation process has turned into political warfare. 

Absolutely. I'm disheartened by so many Democrats who are saying that they need to get their hands dirty. What happened to "when they go low, we go high?". I think this is the wrong tactic. It may excite the base, but it animates (and solidifies) their opposition and alienates independents and moderates. 

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The releasing the emails was done for two points 1) show Kavanaugh's legal views on the subject and 2) show the games that the Republicans are playing by claiming this had to do with national security (it was a related security subject but the legal discussion had nothing to do with national security.) 

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3 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

Takes 67 votes I think.  Not possible, if so. 

Honestly, I'm not sure what the rules are any more in the Senate.

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3 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

Absolutely. I'm disheartened by so many Democrats who are saying that they need to get their hands dirty. What happened to "when they go low, we go high?". I think this is the wrong tactic. It may excite the base, but it animates (and solidifies) their opposition and alienates independents and moderates. 

its the extreme left driving this and it's going to backfire. What they should be doing is pointing out elections have consequences and telling everyone who claims to be a democrat to get off their asses and vote because not doing so led to a Trump presidency and a conservative Supreme court. I'd use Gorchich and Kavanaugh every chance I could as a democrat operative. Make sure the voters understand the implications of staying home.

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10 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

 

Read the emails, at least the ones in the article released by the NYT. Very curious to potentially risk expulsion based on those particular emails. (I'd go so far to say they're nothingburgers). It's very obvious that he's running for President in 2020. There's far too much political theater during this Kavanaugh hearing. Unnecessary for the administration to hold back so many documents, and unnecessary for some of these Democrats to make such a show out of what we've seen so far (unless there's more).

One of the emails says in effect that Roe v. Wade can be overturned.  That's far from nothing.  Republicans are withholding hundreds of thousands of documents from his time in the white house.  What are they supposed to do....roll over.

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Just now, 9 Nines said:

The releasing the emails was done for two points 1) show Kavanaugh's legal views on the subject and 2) show the games that the Republicans are playing by claiming this had to do with national security (it was a related security subject but the legal discussion had nothing to do with national security.) 

But the legal views are so mainstream and entirely defensible that they don't amount to much. Kavanaugh stating that "he's not sure all legal scholars believe that Roe is settled law" is 100% true. Within the context of proof-reading an article, it's a stretch to think that he wouldn't respect precedence in-so-far as the original ruling. The rest of the emails are even less controversial. 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about Ben Sasse, but he did write an insightful article in the WSJ about the impotency of Congress has lead to the public (and political parties) to treat the Supreme Court like "super legislators" who can break through the gridlock and address the public's grievances. He goes on to correctly point out that this is not the original or appropriate role of the Supreme Court.

 

I completely agree with that sentiment - and the solution is to fix Congress so it can be an effective and accountable legislative body. I don't think the grand-standing and political theater by either political party is helping in that respect.

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

its the extreme left driving this and it's going to backfire. What they should be doing is pointing out elections have consequences and telling everyone who claims to be a democrat to get off their asses and vote because not doing so led to a Trump presidency and a conservative Supreme court. I'd use Gorchich and Kavanaugh every chance I could as a democrat operative. Make sure the voters understand the implications of staying home.

Democrats are using the hearings to motivate their base for November.

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2 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

But the legal views are so mainstream and entirely defensible that they don't amount to much. Kavanaugh stating that "he's not sure all legal scholars believe that Roe is settled law" is 100% true. Within the context of proof-reading an article, it's a stretch to think that he wouldn't respect precedence in-so-far as the original ruling. The rest of the emails are even less controversial. 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about Ben Sasse, but he did write an insightful article in the WSJ about the impotency of Congress has lead to the public (and political parties) to treat the Supreme Court like "super legislators" who can break through the gridlock and address the public's grievances. He goes on to correctly point out that this is not the original or appropriate role of the Supreme Court.

 

I completely agree with that sentiment - and the solution is to fix Congress so it can be an effective and accountable legislative body. I don't think the grand-standing and political theater by either political party is helping in that respect.

All legal scholars is not the same thing as the supreme court.  The court has upheld Roe for decades.  Of course there will some conservative scholar who disagrees.   You can probably find some legal scholar to say just about anything. What matters is the Court.

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8 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

Absolutely. I'm disheartened by so many Democrats who are saying that they need to get their hands dirty. What happened to "when they go low, we go high?".

I'm pretty sure that tactic helped put Trump in the White House. Fighting fire with fire, while nihilist, is more successful politically.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

I think this is the wrong tactic. It may excite the base, but it animates (and solidifies) their opposition and alienates independents and moderates. 

Exposing documents that the GOP is trying to hide shouldn’t negatively animate anyone in the middle, IMO

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Just now, ctm said:

One of the emails says in effect that Roe v. Wade can be overturned.  That's far from nothing.  Republicans are withholding hundreds of thousands of documents from his time in the white house.  What are they supposed to do....roll over.

Many people do feel that Roe can be overturned, but that doesn't mean it will, and it doesn't mean that Kavanaugh would be an active proponent in achieving that goal. That's the difference. Nothing he said in that email was remotely controversial, especially for a conservative judge.

 

In this case, the Democrats lost the election and while I 100% disagree with blocking Obama's appointee (and think it was shameful), the Democrats are outnumbered here. Kavanaugh, despite the hand wringing by Democrats, is not a dangerous judge. He wouldn't be dependable was a "super-legislator" (as Sasse puts it), but he's not dangerous. 

 

Democrats need to take their medicine on this issue and stop acting like they can find an out through the obstructing the process. They need to motivate their base to actually vote and prepare a coherent message for the mid-term elections. I don't understand why the Democrats are so willing to sacrifice so much for lost causes. (and conversely, do so little when it comes to actually voting).

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