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ctm   

When it was obvious that his 4 casinos were going to go bankrupt, Trump off loaded all the personal debt he could on to the books of the casinos, essentially defrauding the stock and bond investors who had invested.

 

This is the same thing in a different format.  Trump is going to try and steal everything he can on his way out the door.

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begooode   

How did an off the record lunch meeting get quoted?

 

How are any Trump defenders okay with the prez turning the Oval office into a telemarketing scam -- "Donate for the wall!" , when it's not for the wall.  Must have been DOJ Whitaker's idea.

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13 hours ago, OzTitan said:

Why does the mainstream media continue to go easy on Trump? "false claims"? If only there was a single word for that which conveyed a more accurate meaning.

 

Despite the opposition to Trump from the media they still seem reluctant to headline the POTUS as a liar.

The only thing Trump has ever been right about is how the media will miss him when he’s gone. I think that plays a role in what you’re saying. 

 

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Shit, get her off the air. 

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3 hours ago, ctm said:

fify

 

The American people and government employees are his hostages.

Oh come on now, the terrorists are the people he’s letting through our airports. Get it right. 

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begooode   

Well, that was the shortest, most easily resolved national emergency in U.S. history. Twelve hours ago, the president was preparing to set aside the regular process of law. By 9 p.m. eastern time? Not so much.

 

Perhaps somebody pointed out that 15-year civil-engineering projects do not look very convincingly like emergency measures. “My house is burning! Time to begin the process of calling for design proposals for a new fire station.”...

 

,... There is a real immigration problem on the border. Central American migrants have figured out that by showing up at the border in family units, they will be admitted into the country pending the adjudication of an asylum claim. The asylum system is overwhelmed, adjudications take months or years—and long before then, the would-be migrants can vanish into the U.S. labor market. Few Central Americans prevail in their asylum claims. Almost all end up staying, anyway.

 

The solution to that problem is not a lengthy process of design, tendering, land expropriation, grading, and construction. The solution is to get more adjudicators into the asylum system now. If cases are resolved fast, and border-crossers removed promptly, the surge of asylum seekers will abate, as it abated in 2015 after the Barack Obama administration cracked down on the 2014 Central American border surge.

 

But Trump has never wanted a solution. He has wanted a divisive issue and a personal monument. Futile though that monument may be, he could have gotten it, too, had he been willing to trade something attractive to Democrats. But Trump was never willing to bargain. Senate Republicans would not let him: They saw no point in the border wall, and were unwilling to barter for it.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/trump-speech/579850/

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ctm   

The threat of declaring a national emergency was designed to increase viewership for his telemarketing scam.

 

There are also a few questions raised for the TV networks who in 2014 denied president Obama time for an immigration speech because they thought it was too political.

 

1.  What changed this time?  Was it because Trump repeatedly bashes the media and they were intimidated?

 

2.  Were the networks aware when they made the decision to grant time that Trump was fundraising off of it?

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18 minutes ago, begooode said:

Trump ain't building a wall, he's pimping the Oval office.  og NYC gangster

Trump is the guy with knee pads sucking off the gangsters. Get it right. 

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Soxcat   

Amazingly this crisis is no different than it has been since 2006 (secure fence act for 700 miles) when Dems and Pubs agreed that we needed border security.  In fact Reagan allowed amnesty with the provision that the border would be secure.  So for literally decades congress has let us down.  We still have drugs, gangsters, criminals, human trafficking pouring over our border.  Finally we have a president with the balls to do what all these other presidents said they would do but didn't.  After all, Trump has no different view and perspective than presidents and law makers before him from both parties.   

 

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I wouldn't mind a traditional wall with drones/other smart wall technology etc. in some spots (urban areas such as Laredo, El Paso, San Diego, and other urban areas would probably be best served this way) and solely a smart wall in others (dictated by terrain, less urban populations and analytics into the apprehension rates/crossings etc). There is a reconciliation between these two types of walls that works best, and will also allow for minimal disruption to landowners who are being threatened by just 1 long wall. The eminent domain cases for this alone would last a decade or more.

 

There is a right way to build this as an effective buffer between two nations. Unfortunately, Trump is dead set on this wall to appeal to his base, as well as to have a monument to himself.

 

The issue is certainly there - even if it may be overblown. The orange man is unfortunately dead set on a wall at all costs - including shutting down the government. Holding hundreds of thousands of people's livelihoods hostage though is the absolute wrong thing to do.

 

Finally, if they really care about drugs pouring in, look no further than places like the Port of LA and other inbound shipping points throughout the country. Look at luggage more effectively (the TSA and those who search both checked bags as well as carry-on bags is a joke and just security theater). Most drugs/narcotics come through legal entry points that are nowhere near the border.

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9 Nines   

I heard a DEA person this morning. He said that few to no high value drugs come across the open border.  The cartels do not send high value stock over the open border because of high chance of losing the inventory to high rate of smugglers dying in the open deserts, border guards catching them etc.  The DEA person said any drugs coming across the open border is more low volume Mexican-grown marijuana. 

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ctm   
29 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

I heard a DEA person this morning. He said that few to no high value drugs come across the open border.  The cartels do not send high value stock over the open border because of high chance of losing the inventory to high rate of smugglers dying in the open deserts, border guards catching them etc.  The DEA person said any drugs coming across the open border is more low volume Mexican-grown marijuana. 

One of the longest cross-border drugs-smuggling tunnels between Mexico and the US has been found by authorities in San Diego, American officials say.

 

They say the 800m (874 yards) tunnel was used to transport an "unprecedented cache" of cocaine and marijuana.

It was the 13th sophisticated secret tunnel found along California's border with Mexico since 2006.

 

But a local official described it as "ingenious" and unlike anything seen before.

 

Three have been found on the same short street in San Diego that runs parallel to a border fence with Mexico.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36099336

 

Build that wall!

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9 Nines   

The response to President Trump had more viewers than Trump's talk:

 

“The quarter hour (9-9:15 p.m. ET) containing the president’s speech drew a combined 28.1 household rating in metered markets on ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, CNN, Fox News and NBC. The following 15 minutes, including analysis and the Pelosi-Schumer rebuttal, averaged 29.3 across those same networks, a bump of about 4 percent.”

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