Starkiller Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 "I will be making a major announcement concerning the Humanitarian Crisis on our Southern Border, and the Shutdown, tomorrow afternoon at 3 P.M., live from the @WhiteHouse," Trump tweeted Friday evening. That doesn’t sound to me like he is going to cave. Either he is doubling down or he is going to try to make an offer in public and force Pelosi to make the next move try try and win back some public support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 How can he win back any public support? 1. Dems & Repubs had a bi-partisan agreement in place, he shot it down. 2. He said he would accept full responsibility for a gov shutdown. If I were the dems I would keep hammering those two points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Omar said: How can he win back any public support? 1. Dems & Repubs had a bi-partisan agreement in place, he shot it down. 2. He said he would accept full responsibility for a gov shutdown. If I were the dems I would keep hammering those two points. Yeah, but that was before the polling made it clear that people blame him instead of crediting him. Now he is trying anything he can to wriggle out of it (other than abandon his dumbass wall, obviously). Omar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 My guess would be National Emergency. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 He threatened a national emergency a week ago. How do you defer a decision on something that is by definition an emergency? That doesn't mean he won't do it. Logic has never been his strong suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, ctm said: He threatened a national emergency a week ago. How do you defer a decision on something that is by definition an emergency? That doesn't mean he won't do it. Logic has never been his strong suit. It would have already been documented it was not an emergency before that. He had been talking about it for weeks/months/years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, 9 Nines said: It would have already been documented it was not an emergency before that. He had been talking about it for weeks/months/years. Exactly. It’s basically his only play left. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Exactly. It’s basically his only play left. It’s all he has where he can remotely claim a victory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Exactly. It’s basically his only play left. Pence and Kushner went to visit McConnell yesterday PM. It's possible that McConnell told them the senate was ready to vote to open the government and Trump needed a cover story....aka cave and claim to be the bigger man. It's also possible that they went there to brief McConnell on their new plan, national emergeny, whatever. I think the most likely scenario is that Trump makes an offer to Pelosi that she won't accept and he tries to shift the media narrative to her being obstructionist. IsntLifeFunny, and Legaltitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ctm said: Pence and Kushner went to visit McConnell yesterday PM. It's possible that McConnell told them the senate was ready to vote to open the government and Trump needed a cover story....aka cave and claim to be the bigger man. It's also possible that they went there to brief McConnell on their new plan, national emergeny, whatever. I think the most likely scenario is that Trump makes an offer to Pelosi that she won't accept and he tries to shift the media narrative to her being obstructionist. I could see the last part. What a strange place we’ve found ourselves as a nation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ctm said: Pence and Kushner went to visit McConnell yesterday PM. It's possible that McConnell told them the senate was ready to vote to open the government and Trump needed a cover story....aka cave and claim to be the bigger man. It's also possible that they went there to brief McConnell on their new plan, national emergeny, whatever. I think the most likely scenario is that Trump makes an offer to Pelosi that she won't accept and he tries to shift the media narrative to her being obstructionist. It was reported he was trying to get them to pass a bill giving 5.7 billion but it would need 60 votes. Edited January 19, 2019 by 9 Nines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 A knowledgeable poster on Political Wire wrote, "If they don't reopen the government on Monday or Tuesday finance won't be able to process back-pay before the end of the month." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 National Emergency would also divert talk of his crime of suborned perjury to backset on the Sunday news shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 4:24 PM, Legaltitan said: This shutdown is going to damage both sides. I'm with all of you - it is 100% clear and obvious to me who is responsible for this shutdown. The longer it goes on, the more I predict both sides will be punished close to evenly. I still think the best way out of this is the Daca for wall deal. Hell this may be able to be done on much better terms than what was offered Trump a year ago. If so, that would be a win win for everyone. Only other way it ends is Trump does the emergency bullshit thing, and then agrees to sign the spending bill, and then it passes the Senate. A majority of Americans disapprove of the way Trump (61%), Republicans in Congress (60%) and Democrats in Congress (53%) are handling negotiations over the shutdown, according to Pew Research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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