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Mueller drops new indictments: 12 Russian GRU in their official cpacity


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Spin it, retards.

Is there ANY president, in the history of this union, other than Trump, who would proceed to go ahead and meet with Putin after 12 indictments are issued against Russian government officials like this

When a prosecutor goes to the grand jury and seeks an indictment, he's only required to present enough evidence to show probable cause that a crime was committed.  This is what Mueller has done in thi

1 hour ago, Legaltitan said:

Is there ANY president, in the history of this union, other than Trump, who would proceed to go ahead and meet with Putin after 12 indictments are issued against Russian government officials like this? Hell no there isn't.

 

At the very least, if only for appearances sake, it is utterly unconscionable that a US President would meet with a foreign leader whose agents had just been indicted for these kinds of crimes.

He's taking direct orders from Putin and has no choice 

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5 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

 

 

Some blame also needs to go to the Hillary campaign for not having the proper security on their systems which allowed this to happen. 

 

 

No doubt about this, but sophisticated people fall for this crap all the time, and doesn't make it any less of a crime.

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There is an interesting little detail in the indictment, which is the DC  Leaks release of emails.

 

Trump and co have been saying all along that the Trump Tower meeting was no big deal because nothing came of it. We now have proof that was a lie. In that meeting, Russia offered to give damaging info on Clinton on June 9. DC Leaks launched on that date, and did exactly that.

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47 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Some blame also needs to go to the Hillary campaign for not having the proper security on their systems which allowed this to happen.

 

Replace "Hillary campaign" with "Bush" and this statement could be about 9/11.

 

Or Sharon Tate needs to take some of the blame for her (and her friends + unborn child) slaughter by the Manson family. She obviously didn't have the proper security. Bitch needed a wall around her house!

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2 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

So @Legaltitan, what do you think will become of these 12 indictments? Do you think Russians are going to go to US jails?

You don't have to be a lawyer or legal scholar to know the odds of getting these Russians in a US court far less jail is probably slim to none. Regardless, we have case laid out with dates and the Americans involved with those Russians.

 

Question for you. During Trump's loose meeting with Putin. Do you think he will ask Putin to extradite all indicted Russians?

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1 hour ago, LongTimeFan said:

So @Legaltitan, what do you think will become of these 12 indictments? Do you think Russians are going to go to US jails?

Experts stated no jail but it will restrict their travel (could get arrested in many countries) and possibly cause them to lose access to funds outside of Russia. 

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2 hours ago, Legaltitan said:

Some excerpts:

 

"The GRU had multiple units, including Units 26165 and 74455, engaged in cyber operations that involved the staged releases of documents stolen through computer intrusions."  Jeez, that seems pretty specific.

 

The indictment goes into great detail on the various hacks, including dates and times of specific hacking acts.

 

Paragraph 43 and 44 are a doozy:

 

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"... The Conspirators, posting as Gucifer 2.0, also shared stolen documents with certain individuals.

a.  On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Gucifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for the U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Gucifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent."  Oops

 

"The Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, also communicated with U.S. persons about the release of stolen documents. On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators ... wrote to a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ... ." It then details other messages, and states the contact responded "[p]retty standard."

 

Woo, paragraph 72:

 

"In or around July 2016, KOVALEV and his co-conspirators hacked the website of a state board of elections and stole information related to approximately 500,000 voters, including names, addresses, partial social security numbers, dates of birth, and driver's license numbers." That sounds bad.

 

 

 

 

 

This was Roger Stone, imo and is a direct link to the Trump campaign.

 

Mueller is laying the foundation with this indictment and the previous one.  If you are going to charge conspiracy, then you have to prove the underlying crime first.

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