pat Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soxcat said: But it proves nothing more than status quo. The Russians try to manipulate everything. Shocking they would try and manipulate our elections. Stop reading tea leaves just to justify a point. What you libtards had hoped for didn't happen. @Soxcat i’m glad we agree there was a Russian conspiracy to elect Donald Trump and attack Hillary Clinton. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Btowner said: Bend4Trump is so intent on defending anything against the Trump campaign At some point we have to stop questioning his intelligence and start questioning his motives... Justafan, pat, and MadMax 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, reo said: At some point we have to stop questioning his intelligence and start questioning his motives... I don’t mind real people with differing opinions but i’m sick of paid shills spamming our forums. MadMax, titansfanfamily, and reo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Chinese interference, if any, is irrelevant to these indictments. How much Hillary and Trump spent on TV ads, etc. are irrelevant to these indictments. Next..... reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ben4titans said: If you think they interfered then you are naive as to how this works. I guarantee you, you can investigate Chinese connections to the 2016 Presidential election and find way more than what Mueller found on Russia. The Russian interference is microscopic, compared to what both Hillary and Trump campaigns were doing on TV and Social media. Again, when you put it into context and know what your are looking at, this is embarrassing for Mueller. Another laughable notion, Hillary was such a terrible and corrupted candidate....there wasn't much the Russians could add to make her look worse. The whole thing is a sick joke. Actual indictments and plea bargaining are a joke, but any email or private text message taken out of context is evidence of a deep state conspiracy? Sometimes, you shouldn't post or turn off your computer and let the adults in the forum discuss these topics. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Mueller will tie the Trump campaign to this at the end if they are guilty reo, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I’m going to assume Ben is a paid shill until he posts actual evidence that he’s a slobbering idiot with developmental issues. MadMax, reo, and titansfanfamily 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) A legal expert just stated: In conspiracy cases, all that has to be shown to find a co-conspirator as being guilty is some aid in any single part of the conspiracy and if that is shown, then that co-conspirator is not only guilty for that aid but for the entire conspiracy. So if any Trump people aided the Russian, in any single way, they would be guilty of the entire conspiracy. Edited February 16, 2018 by 9 Nines Justafan, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, Cyrus said: It's confounding that you don't see how a foreign state's effort to covertly spread misinformation in order to influence public opinion during an election could be anything close to legal. How can you make that statement, and not condemn Fusion GPS and the DNC and the hillary campaign for what they did? And yes, that's a serious question. Democrats paid Simpson/Fusion to generate the dossier. Fusion hired Steele. Steele is a foreign agent. He used Russian contacts to generate info the FBI regarded as "salacious and unverified." Then Fusion and Steele briefed media outlets to spread that misinfo. All of which was done covertly, with cooperation by all involved. There is no sane way to defend these indictments and then rationalize what was done on hillary's behalf, by Steele, Fusion GPS and the media outlets. Little Earl 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: How can you make that statement, and not condemn Fusion GPS and the DNC and the hillary campaign for what they did? And yes, that's a serious question. Democrats paid Simpson/Fusion to generate the dossier. Fusion hired Steele. Steele is a foreign agent. He used Russian contacts to generate info the FBI regarded as "salacious and unverified." Then Fusion and Steele briefed media outlets to spread that misinfo. All of which was done covertly, with cooperation by all involved. There is no sane way to defend these indictments and then rationalize what was done on hillary's behalf, by Steele, Fusion GPS and the media outlets. Do you think it’s a scandal that the Democratic Party tried to influence a U.S. election? Starkiller, titansfb, titansfanfamily, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, reo said: Step 1: prove the Russians interfered with our elections. Indictment shows they have proof that they did. Do you now agree that they did? That the Russians sowed discord in our elections was never in dispute. And I've said it before, you've done more to help them on this board than anyone else. You have consistently sown discord with the results of the election at every opportunity. Even to the extent of quoting Louise fucking Mensch. Give it up reo, this indictment says nothing about the Russians being involved with the Trump campaign to accomplish ANY of this. They've been doing this shit for decades, and we knew about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 @titanduckfan Don’t try to compare Democratic apples to Russian blood oranges. there are a lot of reasons to be sick of politics in the U.S., but this is not how it gets fixed. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, patsplat said: Do you think it’s a scandal that the Democratic Party tried to influence a U.S. election? He probably will not answer. He can't even bring himself to admit a Marco Rubio supporter started the initial funding of the Fusion GPS dossier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: How can you make that statement, and not condemn Fusion GPS and the DNC and the hillary campaign for what they did? And yes, that's a serious question. Democrats paid Simpson/Fusion to generate the dossier. Fusion hired Steele. Steele is a foreign agent. He used Russian contacts to generate info the FBI regarded as "salacious and unverified." Then Fusion and Steele briefed media outlets to spread that misinfo. All of which was done covertly, with cooperation by all involved. There is no sane way to defend these indictments and then rationalize what was done on hillary's behalf, by Steele, Fusion GPS and the media outlets. I thought Trump Jr. called this opposition research? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, patsplat said: Do you think it’s a scandal that the Democratic Party tried to influence a U.S. election? The way they did it? Yes. Involving foreign nationals and our own law enforcement agencies to discredit their opponent? Definitely. If you don't, then you're fucked in the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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