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I still don't get the connection that is the basis for all this non-sense.  How are the Russians benefitting from a Trump presidency?  Explain libtards. 

All of this is sour grapes because Trump won.  Plain and simple.  I can't beleive the blue ribbon king pins of conspiracy, the Clintons, are the victims.  Hillary would have blown Putin if she thought it would win her an election.  The more layers of the onion that get peeled off will only expose the DNC and the Clintons further. 

Example: Bill Clinton was giving speeches for $500,000 or more while his wife was SOS.  At least 11.  One was 2011 in Russia.  That is literally the same as handing Hillary a $500,000 bribe.  He also gave a speech in China for $550,000.  The Clinton's cashed in orver a million dollars from two countries that are communist and not exactly our best friends.   

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8 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

I still don't get the connection that is the basis for all this non-sense.  How are the Russians benefitting from a Trump presidency?  Explain libtards. 

 

Besides the fact Putin wants to create chaos in American politics The US has sanctions on Russia that is costing Russia and Putin billions. Trump has already openly talked about lifting the sanctions.

 

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OK.  So what Trump is considering now has more weight that what has transpired.  Virtually everything Trump has done has been anything but pro-Russia.  Maybe the Clinton's can come to Russia and give a few more speeches. 

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7 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

OK.  So what Trump is considering now has more weight that what has transpired.  Virtually everything Trump has done has been anything but pro-Russia.  Maybe the Clinton's can come to Russia and give a few more speeches. 

Are you honestly not able to see how false your statement is? It's mind boggling, step out of the echo chamber.

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11 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Again, what has Trump done so far that is pro Russia?  What have they gained since he was elected? 

A seasoned Pro like Putin eats competent Statesmen for lunch. It makes perfect sense that he wants someone as inexperienced as Trump in office.

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43 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

Again, what has Trump done so far that is pro Russia?  What have they gained since he was elected? 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

OMG are you people dumb.

He's talked about creating a Anti-hacking coalition with the people who hacked him lol.

The lifting of the sanctions is another and has forced congress to try and get ahead of it and take away the President's power.

Every time sanctions are talked about he's backed off ... because there's too much heat around Russia. Things have to die down first ... which the "Mainstream Media" won't let happen.

All that said ... we're also only a couple of months into his presidency so I doubt he waives the Russian flag early if that's his thinking.

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2 hours ago, Soxcat said:

I still don't get the connection that is the basis for all this non-sense.  How are the Russians benefitting from a Trump presidency?  Explain libtards. 

All of this is sour grapes because Trump won.  Plain and simple.  I can't beleive the blue ribbon king pins of conspiracy, the Clintons, are the victims.  Hillary would have blown Putin if she thought it would win her an election.  The more layers of the onion that get peeled off will only expose the DNC and the Clintons further. 

Example: Bill Clinton was giving speeches for $500,000 or more while his wife was SOS.  At least 11.  One was 2011 in Russia.  That is literally the same as handing Hillary a $500,000 bribe.  He also gave a speech in China for $550,000.  The Clinton's cashed in orver a million dollars from two countries that are communist and not exactly our best friends.   

Bill Clinton is a Former president, former presidents make speeches all the time around he world and get paid for them. That is not "Literally" the same as handing Hillary a bribe. The only thing that can "literally" be the same as handing Hillary a bribe, is handing Hillary a bribe. Or do you not understand the word literally? 

Also lol @ the people that keep trying to use Clinton as an example of a president that lied. He was IMPEACHED for lying you idiots. 

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3 hours ago, thor said:

Trump has been harder on Russia than any other President since Regan---I bet Putin wants crooked Hilary now...hell, she'll sell him Uranium...

 

What? Laughing too hard to even type a response.

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46 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said:

Bill Clinton is a Former president, former presidents make speeches all the time around he world and get paid for them. That is not "Literally" the same as handing Hillary a bribe. The only thing that can "literally" be the same as handing Hillary a bribe, is handing Hillary a bribe. Or do you not understand the word literally? 

Also lol @ the people that keep trying to use Clinton as an example of a president that lied. He was IMPEACHED for lying you idiots. 

$500,000 for a speech.  You keep proving the moronic double standard.  There is no vagueness here.  He was paid 1/2 a mil to give a damn speech and while his wife was in a position to be influenced (Secretary of State).  Might be different if the speech was given when he and Hillary were both out of office.  Are you really that fing stupid. 

Now, as an example, what if Trump's wife was paid for a speech in Russia and was paid a ridiculous amount of money (even just $50,000 or one tenth).  Libtards would be ejaculating all over themselves.  You do understand who the Secretary of State is don't you?  That foreign countries paying ridiculous amounts of money to the spouse of the Secretary of State is a big deal.  My God how dumb are some of you.

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You realize that is a normal going rate for a speech from an ex-president.  Gerald Ford was raking in 40,000 per speech even back in the 70's.  Even George W. Bush was making 175,000 per speech and he's one of the worst orraters i've ever heard but he's an ex-president.  Clinton is a gifted orrator and highly sought after.  He earns between 250 and 750k for all of his speeches so 500 is right in line with what everyone else paid.

Obama will likely make even more.  I used to listen to these guys every day just like you do.  Then I realize that they were poison and it was clouding my reason.  Walk away from Rush and Hannity.  Believe me, you will be less angry and better for it in the long run.

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4 minutes ago, Justafan said:

You realize that is a normal going rate for a speech from an ex-president.  Gerald Ford was raking in 40,000 per speech even back in the 70's.  Even George W. Bush was making 175,000 per speech and he's one of the worst orraters i've ever heard but he's an ex-president.  Clinton is a gifted orrator and highly sought after.  He earns between 250 and 750k for all of his speeches so 500 is right in line with what everyone else paid.

Obama will likely make even more.  I used to listen to these guys every day just like you do.  Then I realize that they were poison and it was clouding my reason.  Walk away from Rush and Hannity.  Believe me, you will be less angry and better for it in the long run.

At one point, Sara Palin could show up, take some gratuitous shots at Obama, say same folksy, nonsensical stuff and get paid 100K.

That's the going rate for speeches. 

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