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Curtis Aloysius

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I'm not at all surprised by the fact that the other thread pertaining to NFL players protests was moved again. As soon as news broke about Bennett, I knew it would be moved, because it falls right in line with what was being protested all along. This removes the false narrative that these are overpaid millionaires who are above oppression. This shows the reason they are protesting, is this can still happen to anyone of them. Now the NFL commissioner has been put in a position where he has to make a statement about the issues these players are protesting. This issue wont be going away anytime soon. 

 

The fact that the other one was moved right as this happened shows the racism of this board. Sweep it under the rug, to the politics section, even though this is all relatable to the NFL, the players and their protests. Again not surprised, just disappointed. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000839845/article/bennett-las-vegas-incident-a-traumatic-experience

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Lol sox clearly thinks all 6'4" black dudes should be considered armed and dangerous.

Get this gay shit off the football forum

pretty much

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1 minute ago, Soxcat said:

Here we go again with the overraction and dumb shit.  Bennett is 6'4 and 280+ pounds.  They saw a man quatting near a gaming machine who then began to flee the area even running into traffic.  Reasonable suspicion.  The officers would be shit stupid to not see this as a possible suspect.  The officers apprehending him believe he is armed and dangerous.  Thus one basically says to not resist or he will blow his head off.  Again, something the officer should do since he is trying to get control of a big man who also might be armed.  Bennett said his apprehension felt like an eternity.  They say he was held 10 minutes.  Bennett wasn't hurt in anyway (made him cry) and he was let go soon as they knew he was no longer a suspect. 

 

Now keep in mind the officers are responding, not to some black man in the casino, but to SHOTS FIRED.  They think they might be dealing with an active shooter.  All they have to go on is if someone is actually firing a weapon or someone looks suspicious. 

 

Now in la la land the way to deal with suspious people who might be armed and who are 6'4, 280 pounds, is to ask them nicely to stop and lay down.  If the guy happenes to kill an officer or two it is no big deal, right.  BENNETT wasn't hurt.  He had his feelings hurt.  He got scared.  Welcome to the club Bennett.  Now you know what these police officers feel all the time when dealing with real scum.

Running from gunshots out of fear of being shot makes it reasonably suspicious he was the shooter? Huge leap in logic.

 

Why was he picked out of all the people in the area? 

 

If the threat of his size is a good enough reason for a cop to threaten his life, why isn't it acceptable to protest police for fear of their power? In both those scenarios, only one side is at risk of losing their lives.

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1 minute ago, Soxcat said:

Bennett was scared dumbshits.  Maybe the officer was a little forceful (not brutality idiots) but my God get a life.  Part of his emotional condition was started when the original shots were fired.  Maybe he did look suspicious by his actions to the police.  In your little minded worlds you think cops care more about roughing up blacks than stopping a potential active shooter.  SHOTS WERE FIRED. 

No, I don't purposefully think they actively thought to seek a black man. I think racial bias which may have been in their subconscious led them to pick him.

 

Now answer my last question, if it is okay for a police officer to threaten to blow somebody away out of fear of their size, even when subdued, why isn't it okay for people to protest in fear of powerful cops abusing power?

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7 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

I didn't apologize for anyone.  The rush to judgement is the officer is obviously racist, would let a white suspect go free in preference to a black one.  He man handled a 6'4 280 pound professinal football player to get off on being "brutal" to a colored person.  Made Bennett cry.  Held him for a full 10 minutes. 

Nobody is saying the cop was racist, he is a cop and abusing his power. You are so quick to defend against the possibility that he may be racist. I don't care if the cop is racist or not, what he did was wrong. He was subdued and handcuffed and no longer a threat, yet he still had a gun pointed at him. His life was threatened for something he didn't have anything to do with. You trying to pass it off as his "feelings being hurt" shows how out of touch you are. This man has a life and a family, he contributes to his community and his country, and he was almost murdered for nothing. 

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1 minute ago, Soxcat said:

 

Bull shit he was almost murdered.  It was a chatoic scene.  The officer was trying to get control of a potential suspect and made the threat to get him subdued without incident.  He was held for 10 minutes.  Not a bruise on him.  The mutual respect thing is total BS as well.  You have someone (they don't know who) who could be armed and murdering people.  So have "mutual respect" when you find that person?  Really?

Bennett was almost murdered. The cop never had a gun pointed at his head.

 

Answer the question I've asked twice.

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5 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

It is permissible for the officer to spell out what is going to happen if the suspect doesn't do what he is told to do.  Yes.  Is the officer supposed to arm wrestle the suspect to see who wins?  Is this a fucking game to you idiots.  At the time the officer has no idea what he is dealing with (armed, dangerous, on drugs?) so he simply wants to get control of the individual without incident.  Bennett had his FEELINGS hurt.  He was only in danger if he tried to bash the officer's head in.  As long as he did what he was told he wsa in no danger of getting shot or beat up.

 

 

I just wanted to quote this so everyone can see how stupid you seem. 

 

So because he has no idea what he is dealing with, this gives home the right to

find the biggest guy around and threaten his life? His idea of getting control of the situation was to handcuff, abuse and threaten the life of an innocent man? 

 

Your idea of what he subdued him for is moronic. He had zero reason to believe Bennett was a threat.

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7 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

 

Bull shit he was almost murdered.  It was a chatoic scene.  The officer was trying to get control of a potential suspect and made the threat to get him subdued without incident.  He was held for 10 minutes.  Not a bruise on him.  The mutual respect thing is total BS as well.  You have someone (they don't know who) who could be armed and murdering people.  So have "mutual respect" when you find that person?  Really?

"Sir, I will blow your head off....but don't worry, you won't die, so this won't be murder?"

 

and what made him a potential suspect?

 

 

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These threads could be so much more civilized and productive, if we didn't have close minded, misinformed and down right dumb people like Soxcat. 

 

We dont think all cops just go out and target all black people. But to deny some of them do, is ignorant. Like to be real with you, I don't care what any of you think. I care more about what you are willing to know. You apparently aren't able to get out of what you have been fed by media, misguided friends and family, or whoever has you convinced that cops can do no wrong. If you felt that way but were willing to understand and talk about it, I wouldn't have a problem with you.

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Do we have any info yet on whether there was a description of the shooter that might have led the police to suspect him? If there was, and if Bennett fit the description, then I understand what happened. I don't like it, and I think it should have been handled differently (especially the threat part), but I get it. If not, then this is just pure racism. Being 6'4 doesn't make you more dangerous with a gun than being 5'6. Everybody is ducked when they hear gunshots, so that doesn't explain much. Pretty sure, I would have run the other direction from the cops who are actively moving towards a shootout, too. I would have assumed that where they were is where the action is, and I don't want to be there anymore. 

 

Short version: if Bennett fit a suspect description, then I understand why he was stopped, but NOT why the threat was needed. If he did not, then I don't understand any of it, and the police officer should be reprimanded. 

 

Regardless of this particular situation, though, black people in this country are treated unfairly by police, and we have a PILE of evidence showing this. 

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3 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

They walked or ran by 100s of black people in the casino. His size and color had nothing to do with his being picked out as a suspect.  His actions simply looked suspicious.  The point about him being 6'4, 280 pounds is reason why an officer might be more on edge when trying to apprehend him not knowing if he is truly armed, on drugs or violent.

You're contradicting yourself, if his size and color had nothing to do with it. What made him a possible suspect? Did they just randomly grab him out of "100s of black people in the casino?" What was the description of the shooter? Then you turn around and say him being 6'4 280 as a reason for a police officer to be more on edge, as if this gives him the right to abuse his power. I want to know what you think was a reason for him being a possible suspect..

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