heyitsmeallen Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 187 Mayors adopt Paris Climate Accord despite US pulling out. Quote The group of mayors, who represent more than 52 million Americans and some of the largest U.S. cities, outlined a plan to align with the other 194 nations that adopted the accord: We will continue to lead. We are increasing investments in renewable energy and energy efficiency. We will buy and create more demand for electric cars and trucks. We will increase our efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions, create a clean energy economy, and stand for environmental justice. And if the President wants to break the promises made to our allies enshrined in the historic Paris Agreement, we’ll build and strengthen relationships around the world to protect the planet from devastating climate risks. Quote To give you an idea of some of the large cities participating (ordered by population): New York City, NY Los Angeles, CA Chicago, IL Houston, TX Phoenix, AZ Philadelphia, PA San Diego, CA Dallas, TX San Jose, CA Austin, TX San Francisco, CA Charlotte, NC Seattle, WA Denver, CO Washington, D.C. Boston, MA Out of the top 10 biggest cities, only San Antonio is not participating. This is not just some empty committee, it's a very clear sign that not only the world but also almosts all of the US cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titansfan920 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Bunch of libtartds this is trumps america now!!! deytookerjurbs. Sorry, I woke up feeling special this morning. This is great. I wonder if SA chose to not participate or didn't get the memo. heyitsmeallen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Titansfan920 said: Bunch of libtartds this is trumps america now!!! deytookerjurbs. Sorry, I woke up feeling special this morning. This is great. I wonder if SA chose to not participate or didn't get the memo. I'm actually surprised any TX cities are on the list because of the Oil industry there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: I'm actually surprised any TX cities are on the list because of the Oil industry there. Oil companies and even Rex Tillerson wanted Trump to stay in. Marcon crushing Trump's hand and the fact Trump loves when his shrinking base applauds him is why he pulled out heyitsmeallen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, TennesseeTuxedo said: The mayors are all irrelevant. The US Constitution prohibits them from pursuing their own foreign policy. No it doesn't. They just can't speak on behalf of the US as a whole. This is basic stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: Logan Act. Look it up and read it. Doesn't apply here. But it's currently a big part of the Flynn investigation. Edited June 4, 2017 by heyitsmeallen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanjuicy Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: Logan Act. Look it up and read it. I would consider the letter that 40 Republicans sent to Iran to violate the Logan Act long before what these cities or individuals are doing to keep up with the Paris Accord. I consider the Paris Accord more of an investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanjuicy Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: Not at all. A treaty has to be ratified by the US Senate. Paris was never ratified by them. They can comment on it any way that they want. As for the Logan Act. How many have ever been convicted? Zero! How many have ever been indicted? 1 in 1803. If you actually read up on the history of the Logan act, you would see many accusations throughout our history, all worse than the case you are bringing....including Trump telling the Russians to hack Hillary's emails. This "act" is a useless argument in this case. You lose! TheBukafax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efus50 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Idiots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efus50 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Stop driving your dam car stop running your Air Conditioner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: The mayors are all irrelevant. The US Constitution prohibits them from pursuing their own foreign policy. So King Trump "conservatives" don't give a shit about local and states rights. Just do what the King says? Douchebag. Edited June 4, 2017 by Rogue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 So where is the conflict? Trump didn't say he was opposed to reducing greenhouse gasses. He said he was opposed to paying for others to do it. Especially when they won't really do it at all. China and India together use roughly 8 TIMES as much coal as the US, and much of that is lignite, the dirty soft coal that is far more polluting than the anthracite we use most of. India's coal is almost 100% soft coal. Both are heavily reliant on coal as their primary energy/electrical source, and both have plans to expand its use. While we have curbed coal use by shifting to natural gas. But the anthracite deposits we're sitting on could (conceivably) at least be mined and sold to India to replace their use of the dirtier lignite, allowing our coal miners to return to work, and improving global air quality in the process. So if the mayors want to uphold the targets of the Paris accords within their own city limits that's fine. Unless and until the voters in those cities decide they don't want to follow that doctrine. Soxcat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, TitanDuckFan said: So if the mayors want to uphold the targets of the Paris accords within their own city limits that's fine. Unless and until the voters in those cities decide they don't want to follow that doctrine. The majority of voters and business leaders wanted Trump to stay in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 I doubt the treaty aspect of this even comes into play. The mayors can uphold the intent of the Paris accords without actually entering into any treaty. Which under Article I section 10 of the constitution states are forbidden to do. And since cities are subordinate to the states they're in, that would follow suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The majority of voters and business leaders wanted Trump to stay in And where pray tell did you come up with that little gem? The same pollsters that told you trump had a 2% chance of winning last November? TennesseeTuxedo, and Little Earl 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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