Mythos27 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Little Earl said: The Senate Intelligence Committee has been authorized to conduct a bipartisan investigation into Rice's activities. I guess they don't agree with reo's assessment of the situation. So you agree that there is great cause to investigate Trump and his Russia ties then. Glad we finally agree. earlers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, Little Earl said: The Senate Intelligence Committee has been authorized to conduct a bipartisan investigation into Rice's activities. I guess they don't agree with reo's assessment of the situation. and they're also investigating possibly collusion between Trump and Russia. earlers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, Little Earl said: No, it has not been debunked. Wiretapping probably so, but not inappropriate surveillance. Every person in this country is a victim of inappropriate surveillance by the government.... Considering the FBI was aware of his ties with Russia during the campaign I don't think that surveilling him was inappropriate. The White House didn't order any wiretapping or surveillance. The only thing they did was request the unmasking of names of US citizens that were in communications with Russians being monitored by US spies. This is something that's done on a regular basis no matter who the president is ne it's been done for decades... it's a matter of national security. And look what happened... the Russians hacked our election and altered votes On both sides. Seems like they had appropriate reason to be watching to me. Btw the FBI was most likely watching every single candidate and their close associates... if you don't think that's the case you are crazy. pat, and reo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: So you agree that there is great cause to investigate Trump and his Russia ties then. Glad we finally agree. Really the only point I am making is you libs are going full out to convict Trump of colluding with the Russians, while bushing off the illegal surveillance activities. Some of you are going so far as to saying it has been debunked, which I have proven is beyond false. They both should be investigated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 44 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: Every person in this country is a victim of inappropriate surveillance by the government.... Considering the FBI was aware of his ties with Russia during the campaign I don't think that surveilling him was inappropriate. The White House didn't order any wiretapping or surveillance. The only thing they did was request the unmasking of names of US citizens that were in communications with Russians being monitored by US spies. This is something that's done on a regular basis no matter who the president is ne it's been done for decades... it's a matter of national security. And look what happened... the Russians hacked our election and altered votes On both sides. Seems like they had appropriate reason to be watching to me. Btw the FBI was most likely watching every single candidate and their close associates... if you don't think that's the case you are crazy. The FBI is allowed to do surveillance as part of their job. The White House is not. And the fact that the Senate is investigating Susan Rice proves something was not right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Really the only point I am making is you libs are going full out to convict Trump of colluding with the Russians, while bushing off the illegal surveillance activities. Some of you are going so far as to saying it has been debunked, which I have proven is beyond false. They both should be investigated. it's been largely debunked. 2 minutes ago, Little Earl said: The FBI is allowed to do surveillance as part of their job. The White House is not. And the fact that the Senate is investigating Susan Rice proves something was not right. Doesn't prove anything. Just like the investigation into Trump's connection doesn't prove that something wasn't right there either... That's the point of the investigation. Granted there's a ton more smoke w/ the Trump/Russia thing than the Rice stuff but neither prove anything just b/c there's an investigation. heyitsmeallen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Little Earl said: http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-susan-rice-commit-a-crime-its-starting-to-look-that-way/ You do understand, that even assuming Rice was looking for defamation information, that the investigation was already under way and it's not evidence that Obama ordered Trump team surveillance, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Rogue said: You do understand, that even assuming Rice was looking for defamation information, that the investigation was already under way and it's not evidence that Obama ordered Trump team surveillance, right? No it is not evidence. That is what an investigation is needed to determine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Little Earl said: No it is not evidence. That is what an investigation is needed to determine. I'm okay with them investigating it. If the order did come from the WH for political reasons, and somehow got a FISA court order to do so, that'd be a big problem. I just don't think we're going to find out what you are hoping for. I also don't think Trump colluded with Russia to swing the election, but I do think there could be some shady dealings with some of the people Trump has associated himself with that might benefit from conforming policy to help them in that effort. Most likely nothing illegal, which would not be what Democrats are hoping for. I'm okay with that investigation too. No doubt Democrats are looking to take advantage of any potential scandal. Republicans have done this with good success. This is, unfortunately, modern day politics, but it is effective. Edited April 5, 2017 by Rogue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Really the only point I am making is you libs are going full out to convict Trump of colluding with the Russians, while bushing off the illegal surveillance activities. Some of you are going so far as to saying it has been debunked, which I have proven is beyond false. They both should be investigated. Well, I can't speak for others but I sure as hell don't mind both being investigated. I sincerely doubt this whole unmasking hoopla will amount to anything but I'm fine with an investigation because unlike conservatives, I'm not scared of what they'll find. My point is that conservatives these days are bashing the intelligence community for going after these shady ass Trump people and then quoting/citing the IC community when they think it suits them. I'm going to call it out for the hypocrisy it is. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Clinton has already been extensively investigated for both Benghazi and the email scandal. Trump's investigation just started. Starkiller, and MamlngEnvy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, heyitsmeallen said: Every person in this country is a victim of inappropriate surveillance by the government.... I suspect the Amish are safe... reo, Jerry Blair, and heyitsmeallen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Well, I can't speak for others but I sure as hell don't mind both being investigated. I sincerely doubt this whole unmasking hoopla will amount to anything but I'm fine with an investigation because unlike conservatives, I'm not scared of what they'll find. My point is that conservatives these days are bashing the intelligence community for going after these shady ass Trump people and then quoting/citing the IC community when they think it suits them. I'm going to call it out for the hypocrisy it is. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Clinton has already been extensively investigated for both Benghazi and the email scandal. Trump's investigation just started. Suppose they do determine that Trump colluded with the Russians....then what? It's not like Democrats haven't attempted to do such that in the past. Should Trump be pushed and how for doing what the Democrats have previously done, including the lying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan'sATitan21 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Lololol what's wrong with the libs they are suffering from fake news syndrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jordan'sATitan21 said: Lololol what's wrong with the libs they are suffering from fake news syndrome Your face is suffering from downs syndrome reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan'sATitan21 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Lol just like a liberal TALK trash when you have nothing better to say Hahahaha y'all are a joke go learn something besides the bullshit you have been Fed by fake media and disturbing Democrats Hahahaha all I have to say is quit spying on Americans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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