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Obama definitely neglected to try to help build the party up from the bottom. It just wasn't the strategy of the party as a whole though. Clinton was actually going to make helping retake state governments an area of focus. Oops.

Due to losing the White House, the Democratic party is at its weakest position in decades being the only political party in American history to win the popular vote in 6/7 consecutive elections.

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2 hours ago, Little Earl said:

Eight years ago there were a couple of posters (you know who you are) that posted a link to an article on how the Dems would be in power for decades, and crowed about it.   The only thing the Reps don't now have is a supermajority, but they do have more governors and state legislatives.

Political power runs in cycles.  People are naturally always looking for more, naturally dissatisfied with their lot in life.  It's normal to look for a reason why and instead of taking personal responsibility, getting off of their ass and making a change, they take the easy route and blame the establishment.   8 years seems to be enough time for people to get completely fed up and throw a little bit of energy into sparking an overhaul.   It can't come soon enough for me this time though.

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On thin skin, an Ivy League perspective:

http://blog.simplejustice.us/2016/11/11/the-trauma-of-your-first-loss/#comments

 

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The Trauma Of Your First Loss

At Yale, students sought the concession from their Econ 115 professor to cancel his midterm exam. The claim to suffer “fear, rightly or wrongly.” may well be true, as is the pain. They just suffered the first smackdown of their values ever, and this wasn’t possible. They had been told that their values were true, were real, were absolutely right, and therefore there could be no reasonable disagreement. If true, and they believe it with all their being, then this was no more possible than pigs flying. And everybody knows pigs can’t fly.

So it had to be evil that permeated their country. Millions of racists and sexists stole control from them. It had to be. There could be no other explanation that meshed with their world view. The old aphorism, that there were two sides to every story, was a lie. There was no other side. They were right. They had always been right, and would always be right. There could be no higher calling than serving what was right, and it justified doing anything, anything, to achieve what was right.

~Snip~

More at:

http://blog.simplejustice.us/2016/11/11/the-trauma-of-your-first-loss/#comments

 

 

 

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Justafan   
On 11/11/2016 at 5:22 AM, thor said:

Give the guy a chance...In four years you can all come out of your racist holes and "maybe" go VOTE!!!

This is an ironic statement considering Hillary won the popular vote.

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3 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said:

You're describing the republicans after Obama took office just as much as young democrats today.

And only a small percentage of those.  The vast majority of Americans are not sniveling douchebags who have their entire identities tied up in who wins the presidential election.  Most of them are simply scared that their lives will be worse under Trump because he'll do something ridiculous while in office or the more likely scenario of allowing the Republicans to spend recklessly while cutting taxes and pointing to make believe revenue streams as justification.  

Hell, we know that millions of people's lives may get worse if they privatize medicare and abandon the ACA without a proper replacement.  

Ryan is a fiscal conservative and i'm cool with that but my fear with him is that he'll focus on cutting the wrong things.  The military doesn't need a blank check, we just need to stop picking wars we can't win.  Going after planned parenthood is ridiculous and simply a way to get around the supreme court ruling.  

We might all be wrong about Trump and i'm willing to give him and Ryan a chance and support them both because I would want the same if the Dems were in control.  It wouldn't happen and we all know it but that's besides the point.  I hope i'm wrong about Trump and especially about Ryan.  I hope they do great things.  

But you're fucking insane if you think people don't have a legitimate reason to be afraid that a guy who conned business partners, started Trump university, most likely hasn't paid taxes in 20 years (possibly illegally) and possibly colluded with both members of the FBI but also with RUSSIA to win an election after claiming the other side rigged it.  They have every right to be upset and afraid just like you would be had Hillary won.

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thor   
2 hours ago, Justafan said:

This is an ironic statement considering Hillary won the popular vote.

Unfortunately, that's not how the system works...Apparently, HRC needed to win so most of these snowflakes and other Dems won't miss exams and destroy their hometowns...Heck, their even beating people up for having voted for Trump...You didn't see that 8 years ago when Obama was elected...The actual hatred is coming out now and it's a crying shame these idiots don't even know what their standing for and are still getting antagonized by the media to do this stuff...Several of the marches were started by people who can't even vote yet---but, wanted people to know their voices can be heard...I would say most of these kids actually have no idea what their marching for---well I suppose they do, the way Trump has been portrayed by the media...

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53 minutes ago, thor said:

Unfortunately, that's not how the system works...Apparently, HRC needed to win so most of these snowflakes and other Dems won't miss exams and destroy their hometowns...Heck, their even beating people up for having voted for Trump...You didn't see that 8 years ago when Obama was elected...The actual hatred is coming out now and it's a crying shame these idiots don't even know what their standing for and are still getting antagonized by the media to do this stuff...Several of the marches were started by people who can't even vote yet---but, wanted people to know their voices can be heard...I would say most of these kids actually have no idea what their marching for---well I suppose they do, the way Trump has been portrayed by the media...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html

There were plenty of marches protesting Obama taking office.  The revisionist history needs to stop.

Is there ignorance on display with the riots?  Sure.  There has been on both sides.  For a long time.  Pretending that your side is clean and the other side is dirty is the big problem here.  It's why we can't work together on anything.  People like you keep propping one side up like they are a bunch of heroes and demonizing the other side like they are literally traitors of the highest order.

It doesn't matter what side your on.  As long as we keep doing that, America will continue to lose.  

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thor   
33 minutes ago, Justafan said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html

There were plenty of marches protesting Obama taking office.  The revisionist history needs to stop.

Is there ignorance on display with the riots?  Sure.  There has been on both sides.  For a long time.  Pretending that your side is clean and the other side is dirty is the big problem here.  It's why we can't work together on anything.  People like you keep propping one side up like they are a bunch of heroes and demonizing the other side like they are literally traitors of the highest order.

It doesn't matter what side your on.  As long as we keep doing that, America will continue to lose.  

Come on---enough of the holier then thou attitude---there was nothing near this extent when Obama was elected...Now, like the media, you're trying to sugar coat the actions of these brats...It goes much deeper then that too...I have hope for what Trump can do with the presidency and I'm sure not going to cry about HRC and the Dems getting their asses handed to them...I hear what people are saying about those that voted for Trump and I've seen people being beaten for voting their mind...I'm sick of the racism and pointing fingers---take care of your own house before you throw rocks at others...

That's just the reason people won't agree---they are saying the same thing but think their right without seeing the other sides point of view...You can talk all the we're Americans stuff you want--- but, until the "you're demonizing the other side" stuff is rectified---you can listen to the left wing media and claim how right you are...and find your safe spot and go miss class...

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Just now, thor said:

Come on---enough of the holier then thou attitude---there was nothing near this extent when Obama was elected...Now, like the media, you're trying to sugar coat the actions of these brats...It goes much deeper then that too...I have hope for what Trump can do with the presidency and I'm sure not going to cry about HRC and the Dems getting their asses handed to them...I hear what people are saying about those that voted for Trump and I've seen people being beaten for voting their mind...I'm sick of the racism and pointing fingers---take care of your own house before you throw rocks at others...

There wasn't the political campaign that led to this when Obama got elected either.  People didn't like Obama but the only ones scared of him were the extremists.  And there were still plenty of demonstrations.  

I can easily take the high ground on this.  You guys have been crawling in the gutter and until you climb on back out, you have no right to complain about anyone.  It's silly that your side has people wearing Trump that Bitch t-shirts and beating up people who attend their rallies and have displayed a litany of immaturity and then turn around and accuse the Dems of being a bunch of brats and whiners.  Trump is the king whiner.  

I don't even consider myself a democrat.  I'm more of a libertarian with a bunch of caveats.  I agree with Trump on a lot of issues, but people have a right to protest.  It's fucking silly to get upset by the protests.  Riots sure but those will go away and I agree that those need to stop.  They don't help anything.  

You guys have been throwing rocks for years.  No one has a right to accuse the other side of racism or throwing rocks or any of that garbage.  The fact that you guys are trying to play the victim card right now is goddamn hilarious.  

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thor   
1 minute ago, Justafan said:

There wasn't the political campaign that led to this when Obama got elected either.  People didn't like Obama but the only ones scared of him were the extremists.  And there were still plenty of demonstrations.  

I can easily take the high ground on this.  You guys have been crawling in the gutter and until you climb on back out, you have no right to complain about anyone.  It's silly that your side has people wearing Trump that Bitch t-shirts and beating up people who attend their rallies and have displayed a litany of immaturity and then turn around and accuse the Dems of being a bunch of brats and whiners.  Trump is the king whiner.  

I don't even consider myself a democrat.  I'm more of a libertarian with a bunch of caveats.  I agree with Trump on a lot of issues, but people have a right to protest.  It's fucking silly to get upset by the protests.  Riots sure but those will go away and I agree that those need to stop.  They don't help anything.  

You guys have been throwing rocks for years.  No one has a right to accuse the other side of racism or throwing rocks or any of that garbage.  The fact that you guys are trying to play the victim card right now is goddamn hilarious.  

Absolutely some of the most bull shit I have ever read...Worse then Rushton's draft picks...I don't even find this worth responding to...Go back to the tv and watch the left wing media talking crap and inciting riots...

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Yeah, I've been throwing verbal rocks, especially the last 3 years or so.  This economy sucks for most people.  There's a reason why ins coverage was extended to allow parent's covering their 26 Y/Os.  Obama knew it sucked then and knows it still sucks now.  And is still fighting for it.  Because he knows 90% of all kids 19-25 have damned few, or no job prospects in his economy.

But nobody asked for the day off after he got elected.  Nobody was in mourning.  Nobody said they couldn't take a test over it.  Nobody was so crippled by fear they couldn't function.  And if they had been no one would have cared,and no one would have constructed them a "safe space" and devoted resources to console them over election results.  Seriously?

And that protest article link you posted was from almost 9 months after obama took office.  And the writer mis-characterizes the ire anyway.  What the TEA Party were pissed about then (yes I was an early Tea Partier) was the notion and the expense of the bailout and the stimulus spending.  And it started months before Obama took office.  But I was gone by the time that protest rolled around, and the TP was only a portion of that protest.

Besides, what took place that the article writer misses, is that was the 9/12 project of Glenn Beck's.  It was far more than an "Obama protest" both in concept and execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-12_Project

9_12_Project.jpg
 

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The 9-12 Project (alternatively 9/12 Project, 912 Project) is a group created by American television and radio personality Glenn Beck. It was launched on the March 13, 2009, episode of Glenn Beck, the eponymous talk show on Fox News Channel. A website was launched to promote the group, and several local 9-12 groups formed soon after in cities throughout the United States.[2]

According to Beck, the purpose of the project is "to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001 ... we were not obsessed with red states, blue states or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the values and principles of the greatest nation ever created."[3] 9-12 represents the date following the September 11 attacks in 2001, and "9 Principles" and "12 Values" that Beck believes represent the principles and values shared by the Founding Fathers of the United States.[4]

 

I didn't despise Obama.  Never. 

But I had no use for Paulson, Geithner and their cronies that held the governments of both Bush and Obama and our congress hostage. 

And I didn't go out and march in the streets, or burn and destroy over his election.  Nobody did.  If that's what you believe, sorry, but that's revisionist history.

And that protest?  When it was over no windows were broken, no monuments defaced, no graffiti.  Hell, there wasn't even much litter.  Those people cleaned up after themselves.  The people that assembled in DC that day loved this country, they weren't trying to tear it apart by calling  the voters that elected Obama racists and misogynists, and xenophobes, and sexists and morons.  It was the very definition of a peaceable assembly.  Even if they weren't happy with Obama, nobody turned it against his voters.

It was designed to capture the spirit we all shared the day after the 9/11 attacks, when we were united in spirit and in love of country.  Hence the name, and the date it was held.

And if that's what you want to call "crawling in the gutter" then I think you're the misguided one here.

Edited by TitanDuckFan

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21 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

Everyone fell in line with Obama. We didn't have the birther and "he's a Muslim" (see: racism) movements. Trump himself didn't call for protests because of an EC and popular vote split (that didn't happen desire his confusion). We didn't have complete government shutdown and record (by far) obstruction. We didn't have unparalleled blocking off nominees, including unprecedented blocking off a Supreme Court nominee. Everyone just accepted him. We moved on and healed add a nation, right? That's why we elected someone who ran on - literally by his own words - racism, misogyny and bigotry. Because everyone just moved on.

You know Jamal, you should get a second eyepatch.

But be sure to label them, so people will recognize the reason you choose to blind yourself.

You could label the left one "butthurt" and the right one "sarcasm."

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