Titans279 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 .@gregcosell on @Midday180: #Seahawks run a college offense w/o NFL route trees. Deception, misdirection creates stress for defenses. 10:41 AM - 8 Oct 2014 Pretty funny tweet considering the views on this board about college QB's, offenses, and Russell Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanedUpSince'70 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Was glad to see R. Wilson come back home to Va. this past weekend to see his family. He played high school ball here and I think a lot of the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titansurf32 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Pretty funny tweet considering the views on this board about college QB's, offenses, and Russell Wilson. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--seattle-and-its-deceptive-college-based-offense-211356185.html I would definitely read his full article on it before making any assumptions about how quality of QB play factors into this "college based" offense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Pretty funny tweet considering the views on this board about college QB's, offenses, and Russell Wilson. So Russ plays in a ....wait for it..... Simplified offense ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 So Russ plays in a ....wait for it..... Simplified offense ?? Did you even read the article? Where does it mention a simplified offense? "For a long time, offenses in the NFL have been based on designed plays and execution, and defenses based on deception and disruption. I'm not an expert on the intricacies of college offenses, but I'm seeing some of the principles in the NFL, and those principles are rooted in the offenses wanting to deceive and disrupt the defense. The Seahawks do that more than anyone in the NFL, even more than Philadelphia and Chip Kelly's offense. The Seahawks are not running a lot of basic plays and trying to out-execute the defense. They force you to defend the field horizontally, and they put you in position with all their backfield movement and actions that the defenders can't trust their eyes. There's so much deception within their offense. " StephenIsLegend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Lol, schooled again. StephenIsLegend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) I have changed my tune on Wilson. As recently as the Super Bowl I thought he was a QB that was made to look a lot better because of who he plays for. I remember arguing with @Face and @abenjami about this. I think he's actually the most important player on the Seahawks now and not just someone that is winning because he's on a great team. He is part of the reason that the Seahawks are great. I'm not sure how good the Seahawks would be or if they'd even be a playoff team is Tarvaris Jackson was starting or if they'd held onto Matt Flynn. I'd still take Luck over him but I don't think it's a stretch to say that Wilson is a top 5 QB. Honestly, you could make a case right now that the top 5 QB's in football are Manning, Rodgers, Rivers, Luck and Wilson. I'm not sure if given the choice between Brees and Wilson I'd take Brees anymore. Another thing. In general, I despise dual threat QB's. Wilson to me is an exception. He NEVER gets hurt, never puts himself in harm's way and runs to set up the throw and only actually runs when he has to or when he's given such a cushion that he can't help it. I don't think it's a stretch to say that as a running QB there's never been a smarter runner. Even Steve Young used to get hurt. Edited October 9, 2014 by scine09 OILERMAN, and Cyrus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 First player to ever throw for 300 yards and rush for 100 yards in the same game Denali 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Y'all still on his dick or what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 So, Seattle as a whole is not quite what they were a year ago and Wilson's no longer a very solid QB? They run very simple route concepts(not Wilson's fault), they have very mediocre wr's(not Wilson's fault), and we're all supposed to strip him of two years of solid playoff performances? Don't think any of us said he was better than Rogers, Brady, Manning? Wilson is a very solid QB. Title is not "Wilson's a solid qb" its "Wilson's an elite qb" Seattle gonna be bad in a few years when they gotta hand him the biggest qb contract ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Id put him right after Manning , Rodgers, Brees and Brady. He's that good. Ahem... @ lol. Didnt say better but in same group. Edited November 22, 2014 by 520 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Well, that group does have a ring. Last I checked so does Wilson. So does trent dilfer. I ain't sayin hes bad. He's vastly overrated....like kaep was his first two years. I honestly laughed when I saw this thread put up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 He's better than Brady and maybe even Brees at this point. But I'd definitely put Rivers and Luck ahead of him. Huh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtworsley Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 So, Seattle as a whole is not quite what they were a year ago and Wilson's no longer a very solid QB? They run very simple route concepts(not Wilson's fault), they have very mediocre wr's(not Wilson's fault), and we're all supposed to strip him of two years of solid playoff performances? Don't think any of us said he was better than Rogers, Brady, Manning? Wilson is a very solid QB. I agree that Seattle is having a down year, a big reason why is because referees are no longer allowing them to get away with mugging opposing wide receivers (though it should be noted that they're still 3rd overall in defense and second vs. the pass). But you can also argue that a QB makes his wide receivers. Look at how many receivers who were nobodies until Peyton Manning started throwing to them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Huh Honestly when I said that Brady appeared to be on a severe decline that had gone on for more than a year. He's since picked it up and had a tremendous season. As of today I'd take Brady over Wilson. MamlngEnvy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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