Tennessee Mother Writes to Charlotte Observer About Newton's Dancing

[titansfan]

8 minutes ago, volntitan said:

Without muddling thru all the posts, it was well written letter and may have had good intentions, but means little.  I agree with the whole "don't want them to dance, keep them out" mentality.  The only difference with Cam, he was all pissy last week about how you shouldn't disrespect a team at their home so he tore down the Packer's sign, but he has no issue with being the one doing the disrespecting.

Cam actually did something about it though 

[volntitan]

Just now, NYPanther said:

I certainly understand your point and think it's valid, no argument from me there.

What Cam is trying to do, is change our pathetic wine and cheese crowd to a real football culture.... and it's working. It obviously is upsetting some people along the way, but with a city full of transplants, he might be the only player who can handle the task.

I really don't have an issue with him dancing really.  He is an ego type person and always has been.  Just don't bitch about being disrespected in "your house" and then proceed to disrespect someone elses.  Need to grow up some.

[titansfan]

It seems like a few people just wanna tell Cam how to behave.. those people should take a seat and politely stfu

[EagleEye]

MM was asked about Cam's dancing and he said that it's a fun game and he was just having fun so he didn't have any issues with it.

[NYPanther]

Just now, volntitan said:

I really don't have an issue with him dancing really.  He is an ego type person and always has been.  Just don't bitch about being disrespected in "your house" and then proceed to disrespect someone elses.  Need to grow up some.

I wouldnt say he bitched about, he got rid of it. It had the state of NC painted green with a Packers logo. Like I said, he wants to change the pathetic culture, and these are his way of doing. And I don't believe his intent was to be disrespectful to the Titans or their fans, until your guys came at him. He does that dumb dance at home too so dont take it personal.  Just consider Titans players were taunting Cam after those nice blitzes and played after the whistle numerous amounts of time.

[NYPanther]

12 minutes ago, titansfan said:

It seems like a few people just wanna tell Cam how to behave.. those people should take a seat and politely stfu

thats pretty much it dog

[freakingeek]

So y'all are calling Avery Williamson and Wesley Woodyard whiny bitches because they got in Cams face about the dance? which incidentally looked about as manly as PeeWee Herman. It's a respect thing. I'm surprised it doesn't bother some of you. I guess we've been losing so long you guys are getting used to being the doormat.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, oldschool said:

Bink I think you are one of the smartest posters on this board. How can you possibly think Newton isn't immature?

Man, there are a million reasons. I think the "Cam is immature" narrative is just another one of those things that gets perpetuated and harped on by the media without a ton of real information behind it, something that fans pick up and never want to let go. JJ Watt does all of the same shit that Cam does and then some, but is one of the most celebrated players in the league. Aaron Rodgers has his celebrations and his trolling comments and no one cares. 

Cam's sulking is from early in his carrer, however seems to be so damning that it will never not be a part of his story. I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. 

None of us are in that locker room, and yet we claim to be experts on the subjects. Teammates argue and call each other but for Cam it's an inherent character flaw. He's been a winner for his team and has been relatively quiet off the field. He's hardly the fuck up an RGIII type is, how systemically hurt his team's ability to win through his behavior. 

I contend that if everyone hadn't decided he had all of these massive character flaws when he was at Auburn it would be much less a part of his story. 

Just look at the level of emotional attachment people like kgstitan have to defending the idea that he *IS* immature, citing random blog posts and media that comes from Alabama centric websites of all places. 

Since he's been a Panther, he's had zero off the field incidents. 

I wonder why no one is talking about the fact that Cam went out of his way to meet with Steve McNair's son before the game. Say what you want about McNair, but that's a boy who lost his father. 

Doesn't an action like that portray maturity? Except this kind of thing doesn't fit into the narrative that let's folks keep disliking a player they've always disliked so it goes out the window. Better focus on an analysis of his body language or when he celebrated too long. 

 

Come on. 

[freakingeek]

I said when Cam was at Auburn that he had tons of potential to be a great pro QB. He's refined his game. He learned to run the offense. He's matured as a leader. So there's really no reason to act like a punk. Actions speak louder than taunting the team you are beating in their stadium.

[abenjami]

13 minutes ago, Bink said:

Man, there are a million reasons. I think the "Cam is immature" narrative is just another one of those things that gets perpetuated and harped on by the media without a ton of real information behind it, something that fans pick up and never want to let go. JJ Watt does all of the same shit that Cam does and then some, but is one of the most celebrated players in the league. Aaron Rodgers has his celebrations and his trolling comments and no one cares. 

Cam's sulking is from his second year in the league, however seems to be so damning that it will never not be a part of his story. I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. 

None of us are in that locker room, and yet we claim to be experts on the subjects. Teammates argue and call each other out but only for Cam does it seem to be a character flaw. He's been a winner for his team and has been relatively quiet off the field. He's hardly the fuck up an RGIII type is. 

I contend that if everyone hadn't decided he had all of these massive character flaws when he was at Auburn it would be much less a part of his story. 

Just look at the level of emotional attachment people like kgstitan have to defending the idea that he *IS* immature. 

Since he's been a Panther, he's had zero off the field incidents. 

I wonder why no one is talking about the fact that Cam went out of his way to meet with Steve McNair's son before the game. Say what you want about McNair, but that's a boy who lost his father. 

Doesn't an action like that portray maturity? Except this kind of thing doesn't fit into the narrative that let's folks keep disliking a player they've always disliked so it goes out the window. Better focus on an analysis of his body language or when he celebrated too long. 

 

Come on. 

I see what you are saying and I agree with a lot of it.  I think that probably applies to quite a few people who don't like Cam.  But there are other people like me who don't like what JJ Watt and some other guys do either most of the time.

As I said in another thread this week, I love to see end zone celebrations at the appropriate time and I hate that the league has tried to eliminate them.  But there is a difference between doing an end zone celebration when you score a meaningful TD vs. doing one when you are still down two scores or celebrating every first down.

I don't like Cam because I think he's a bad seed and a "me" guy.  He's also a huge drama queen.  His press conferences and public statements appear highly disingenuous to me.  I have no doubt he has a PR person who feeds him buzzwords to say and his nut swingers fall head over heels for it.

So what if the guy met with Mac's son before the game.  Of course he was going to do that.  All these high profile athletes do token stuff like this all the time because it helps their image.  Let me know when he does something actually meaningful like mentor the boy throughout his teenage years like Mac tried to do for VY.  Hopefully he won't because I don't want to see Mac's kid turn out like Cam.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, abenjami said:

I see what you are saying and I agree with a lot of it.  I think that probably applies to quite a few people who don't like Cam.  But there are other people like me who don't like what JJ Watt and some other guys do either most of the time.

As I said in another thread this week, I love to see end zone celebrations at the appropriate time and I hate that the league has tried to eliminate them.  But there is a difference between doing an end zone celebration when you score a meaningful TD vs. doing one when you are still down two scores or celebrating every first down.

I don't like Cam because I think he's a bad seed and a "me" guy.  His press conferences and public statements appear highly disingenuous to me.  I have no doubt he has a PR person who feeds him buzzwords to say and his nut swingers fall head over heels for it.

So what if the guy met with Mac's son before the game.  Of course he was going to do that.  Let me know when he does something actually meaningful like mentor the boy throughout his teenage years like Mac tried to do for VY.  Hopefully he won't because I don't want to see Mac's kid turn out like Cam.

I mean sure, but I think your post pretty much proves my point. All of this is based on perception that I don't really see any basis of reality for.

"I have no doubt he has a PR person"--like where does this come from? What really makes Cam have such a bad character? What has he really done off the field.  I find it hard to believe that you really watch a lot of his press conference and public statements--and even if so, what could he say that you would ever even buy without accounting for preconceived notions? 

And when you say so "what if the guy met with Mac's son"...

which other QBs have we seen doing that? truthfully. 

So hate him if you want, however I think a vast majority of the haters are pulling it out of their asses. 

Which isn't exactly a bad thing--I hate Peyton Manning. It doesn't come from any real place--just that he was out opponent and I find Vols fans annoying. You won't see me saying the kind of shit a lot of people do about Cam, things they truly believe. 

 

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, MM808 said:

This where IMO you are totally wrong.  Why should someone in the middle of dinner have to leave if kids were screaming?  Why should those spoiled rotten kids dictate to others enjoying their meals?  There's a place for that and it's not at a restaurant.  Instead of that 60 yr old woman intervening, the manager of the restaurant should have did something. 

And yes pro athletes should not be role models but like models and actors, they often are.  Parents need to be better at parenting and not let their kids do whatever they want.  Spare the rod, spoil the kid.

 

Huh? I said I would have left. What's your point?

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, MM808 said:

No, what is stupid is parents who "let" their kids act anyway they want to without teaching them.  Before they even go out they should be taught how to behave.

My wife knew of a grandma who had young grandkids and when she took them out to a restaurant, they were very well behaved.  Why? Because she made them act that way. 

If I ever acted out when we went out, my dad would gave me a licking.

What the fuck are you rambling about? Do you have kids? Mine are 4 and 5 and even though my wife and I do a damn good job they act out sometimes. I've left as a result . The assertion you don't take kids out until they know how to behave is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've seen on this board all year.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, oldschool said:

What the fuck are you rambling about? Do you have kids? Mine are 4 and 5 and even though my wife and I do a damn good job they act out sometimes. I've left as a result . The assertion you don't take kids out until they know how to behave is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've seen on this board all year.

The kind of things people think and believe about parenting and how children should or should not behave is insanely stupid. 

[rhonderoo]

I took mine out, but if there was any trouble we went "to the bathroom".  Then my head turned around like Linda Blair's in "The Exorcist".   I hate seeing parents begging their children to behave...

 

And this woman... sometimes I hate being from the south.