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If you ignore the role of the moderator and focus on the content of the candidates' speech, what outcome does that bear? Even if you assume the most conservative viewpoint that Trump was "fact checked" and Kamala was not, all of these questions served as transitions into discussions from the actual candidates. If you edit this debate, and only focus on what the candidates say to one another, you have more than enough evidence to make an opinion.

Trump won the debate because people...don't watch it? Because people have already made up their mind? Maybe he won the optics game to you because you are shallow. That is your choice. In terms of agreeing with everyone on the board---the evidence just doesn't play that out. In terms of diversity of content, rhetoric, agreement and disagreement--try someone else. I am honestly interested in what you have to say outside of generalizations and bullshit. I'm more than willing to engage in good faith--probably more so than is worth anyone's time.

What the fuck are you talking about? Honestly man, there was a time when you had original thought, had respect on this board. Your conservative belief and ideology is not the problem--there are people who are conservative or lean that way, or who skew more independent, who have something to offer. You can't even discuss the actual substance of the debate. He didn't buckle? He didn't make sourpuss faces? "Total victory." What did you actually watch? Are you this far gone?

You posted a 30 second twitter video being used to make a generalization about millions of people. For fucks sake.

This is the most one sided debate in the history of rhetoric.

"we have a president who doesn't know he's alive" WE HAVE A GHOST PRESIDENT!?! FUCK YEAH!

I don't think that would have come off well. And a somewhat nervous start aside, she has conducted a master class. She has taken every opening and hammered him on something. He has been rambling, incoherent, and nonsensical. As soon as she got composed--especially after she gained momentum via the abortion question--she has absolutely wrecked him.

Now you've got to name your favorite FF game. I'm a IX guy.

At this point I actually want it to end because it so brutal.

This is cripplingly embarrassing.

This is the most unhinged thing I have ever seen. I am genuinely interested in hearing from Trump supporters on how they perceived this to go.

"he said we'll execute the baby" "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're eating the pets" "Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens who are in prison"

She was nervous at first. And he held his own. For about two minutes. As it goes on this looks more and more brutal, a fucking ass kicking beyond reason. She transitioned from his insane rant about eating pets into all the Republicans endorsing her perfectly. The difference in their demeanor, their coherency--this is night and day.

Unless someone crazy emerges, we draft the McMillionaire or a pass rusher, tank like crazy and draft Heisman Trophy winning, world hunger solving, undefeated National and Universal WWE Champion, Arch Manning.

Fucking stupid. I don't know if you care about being taken seriously or not, but this is a pretty easy way to take yourself out of the conversation.