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  1. 22 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

    Biden’s kowtowing to the corporate interests of his state (credit card companies in this instance) will probably hurt him just like Booker’s to Wall Street and big pharma will hurt him.

     

    Looking like you bend over for these giant corporations to make life worse for the average Joe in America shouldn’t be the Democratic Party’s thing. 

     

    Biden’s record wasn’t a good match for the Democratic Party in 2008 and it’s even worse of a match now. The only benefit he has is perceived electability. 

     

    If people hit him on the issues I think he’s in real trouble. He’s going to try to keep the talk about Trump, but that’s hard to keep up for 7 or 8 months. 

    Some people are actually still pro business in this country haha. Even some Democrats! 

     

    Biden just got a lot of press for calling out Amazon the other day for not having to pay taxes, but he did it in a way that doesnt make it seem like he wants to break up the company and seize the means of production lol. 

     

    And I don’t think Democrats need a lecture from Bernie Bros on what should or shouldn’t be the Democrats’ “thing.” The Party is a big tent - a fuck ton bigger than you probably think it is. 

     

    Joe Biden isn’t going to come over as some corporate lackey, that’s ridiculous. I just read another book about him and there are tons of examples of him standing ip to corporate interests in Delaware. But is he a bat shit crazy anti business type? No, he’s clearly not, he’s

    worked with business at times, which is one of his strengths. 

     

    His central message is “it’s time to start rewarding work and not wealth” and raising minimum wage, etc. He Has overwhelming union support, etc.

     

    The idea he’s a corporate lackey is pure nonsense. You guys are just towing the party line of the populist class warriors. 


  2. 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

    Most people don't like the word and Warren is wise to keep calling herself a capitalist for sure. 

     

    But when Bernie gets on the stage and starts talking about equality, healthcare for all, free college etc..... people are going to like it. 

    Yeah I meant the terminology. 

     

    But I dunno man, I think he comes across as angry and the whole class warfare thing comes across as divisive to many. 

     

    Some will like it though. And yeah, healthcare for all, free college, etc is going to be appealing to many Democrats of course. 

     

    But the alternative argument re Bernie’s healthcare plan is going to be people getting kicked off their employer plans they like and have to opt into a public option. A lot of people aren’t going to like that and it will give those arguing for being able to keep your plan if you like it a leg up in the eyes of moderates. 


  3. Just now, OILERMAN said:

    I doubt it. The stuff Sanders endorses is popular. Calling it "socialism" quit working like it used to. 

     

    Hillary was attacked last time for being in the banks back pocket and voting for the Iraq war. Biden is the one who stands to lose in the debates for his past stances. 

    Yeah most Americans don’t like socialism. Which is one reason why Warren is overtaking him, after repeatedly saying she’s a capitalist. 


  4. 9 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

    We’ll see if Buttigieg is as uncanny on stage as he is in interviews. I think he’s too young, but there’s no doubt in my mind he’s the only candidate who has the full spectrum of pure intelligence and charisma to go with a good story. 

    I really like Buttigieg. 

     

    But there a lot of risk there. The black and hispanic votes will not turn out for him because he’s gay and those communities are largely anti gay. Conservative Christians who are disaffected by Trump’s unChristian bullshit will not turn out for him. 

     

    He also has some positions that many Americans (independents and never Trumpers esp) will find untenable, like re structuring the Supreme Court, getting rid of the electoral college, being pro reparations, etc. 

     

    He may be relatively moderate on policy but he id probably the most institutionally radical candidate. 

     

    We need every last vote possible from every nook and cranny in every corner of America to dispose of this unpatriotic tyrant. 


  5. 9 hours ago, Starkiller said:

    I think Warren, Booker, Klobuchar, and possibly Beto are all capable of standing out.

     

    Warren leads the polls among that group and could “win”, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Booker ends up being the standout that night. I think he is the best speaker on that stage. 

    Out of the entire lineup - Booker has the most to gain and has the most advantageous set up. 

     

    Of course Biden has the most to lose being paired against Buttigieg particularly. But it does help having Bennett and Hickenlooper, who are both more conservative than Biden. 


  6. 13 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

    A huge portion of Biden’s support is because he seems like the safe candidate to beat Trump. It’s not out of undying loyalty to Biden. 

    That may be true amongst many Americans, but the black community is Biden’s main and most ardent constituency to this point in this primary. They’re literally the backbone of his campaign. And Most of his endorsements so far are either Congressional Black Caucus members or other black politicians like Michael Nutter and Carol Moseley Braun.

     

    A huge majority of black voters support Biden in the primary over other really good black candidates like Harris and Booker who have tried very hard to gain traction among the black communities in the South, and this isn’t just because they think Biden is the best to beat Trump, they know that Biden has their backs. 

     

    (Photo from Biden’s Atlanta trip last week  where he and Stacey Abrams spoke at a voter turnout gala)

     

     

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  7. Just now, oldschool said:

    Its almost as if he refuses to see Biden as a candidate with real support. I'm not a big fan of Biden personally but the hate for him is strange.

    Yeah, I find it weird as well. But it’s pretty widespread. 

     

    I’ve been a big fan of Biden since I started following politics really closely during the Kerry/Dean, etc primary. 

     

    I was perusing all the headlines today related to Biden and the vast majority of them are markedly negative and usually are - I don’t get it. The headlines are either “Biden tops yet another poll” or “Fuck Biden, Biden’s old, Biden’s son is a douche, Biden had this position back in 1971”, etc. 


  8. 49 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

    Feels like a setup from other Arab states who want us to invade Iran and overthrow their biggest rival. 

     

    I mean, maybe it was Iran, but where is the proof? What is their incentive knowing the US just sent 2 carrier groups to the region? Why would they be doing this now?

    It makes zero sense that Iran would do this. Zero. It would be markedly against their own interests. 

     

     

    This whole thing seems very much like bullshit. 


  9. 1 hour ago, Titans279 said:

    I haven’t seen much to suggest Biden will do better with black voters than Hillary did. He is dominating there right now due to pragmatism, not that black people actually like Joe Biden based on his record or anything. 

     

    Buttigieg is also not seen as a left candidate. Nor is Booker. Abrams would be the best choice in appealing to the left and to black voters imo

    Lol, you don’t know what you are talking about man. There is fierce loyalty to Biden in the ranks of the CBC and with older black voters. 

     

    Pay close attention to the reports out of South Carolina week after next and you’ll see what I mean. 


  10. 5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

    Can he inline block? There is a big difference in being a good H-back blocker and an inline blocker?

     

    I was thinking more about Smith's recovery

    I think it’s more about Smith’s absence and the need for an H back. 

     

    Pruitt has been heavily involved though and has had a lot of miscues with the QBs. I think he’ll end up being involved more in the run game than the pass game. 


  11. 4 hours ago, Titans279 said:

    I feel like it’s not that hard to grasp.

     

    Biden is in the best position.

     

    Despite being in the best position, he still has a less than 50% chance of winning the Iowa caucus. 

     

    So, it’s actually more likely that someone else will win. He’s in the best position but he’s not walking away with this by any means. 

    Is anyone saying that he's a shoe-in for the nomination?

     

    I don't think he is. I do think that you can't just ignore his front runner status and cling to a hope and a prayer convincing yourself that it's likely to evaporate. 

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