XAEA12 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, big2033 said: It's in our history. Eddie George pounding the shit out of defenses. And when he works it's fun to watch. But yeah, it just doesn't work most of the time. Why risk it? Eddie George was a terrible RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, nine said: I can't speak for others...but for me, it's not a matter of making Henry a focal point of the offense. It's just that he has proven value in certain areas...but for whatever reason, the coaching staff has chosen to downplay his role in the offense, even in situations where he has proven to be very effective. Consider Henry's final drive of the game yesterday: the Titans get the ball with a 27-10 lead and 10:48 remaining. After a 21-yard completion on first down, they gave the ball to Henry five times in a row: 2 yards 14 yards 5 yards 6 yards 10 yards (TD) The TD made it 34-10 and effectively ended any hopes of the Patriots mounting a late comeback. When the offense came back on the field to close out the game with 4:51 remaining, Lewis was the ballcarrier. 0 yards 2 yards 4 yards punt Look, I love Lewis' explosiveness and versatility and everything he brings to the offense....the guy is freaking dynamite. But the fact is, Henry has proven to be the more effective runner in short yardage/goal-line and obvious running situations. But for whatever reason, when the team gets into those situations or 4-minute situations where Henry has historically dominated and played the very best football of his career...they still tend to give Lewis the nod. I spent the first half of the season arguing it and supporting Henry....but at this point I'm pretty much done with it. The numbers are what they are and they speak for themselves; the coaches will do as they see fit. It's almost like people have preconceived agendas LongTimeFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, newschool said: It's almost like people have preconceived agendas Like every NFL coaching staff Henry's had? Like every NFL analyst? Let. It. Go. Edited November 12, 2018 by big2033 OILERMAN, and C_Train 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, big2033 said: Like every NFL coaching staff Henry's had? These NFL coaching staffs have agendas! big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 hours ago, headhunter said: I like to see what Fluellen can do and i think Lafluer does too, too bad he got hurt. Fluellen came yesterday out of the nowhere to gladly suprise many. And yes, sadly he got injured. So we saw a pinch, of what he is now capable of. I hope he gets well soon and quick enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, newschool said: Eddie George was a terrible RB. Ok, I will pass this in case you tell me you got hit hard in the head before posting this. Quote During his playing days in Tennessee (1996-2003), George never missed a game – a span of 128 starts. He was a 1,000-yard rusher seven times, a four-time Pro Bowler, and he toppled 10,000 yards in his career. On a list of the NFL’s all-time rushers, his average yards per season ranks an impressive 7th overall -- ahead of five running backs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, TitanicoNFLriotFAN said: Ok, I will pass this in case you tell me you got hit hard in the head before posting this. Terrible is obviously an overstatement and I am a fan of the Titans only because of Eddie but he mostly brought leadership to the table, not some fantastic run game. I don't know who those 5 HOFers he's ahead of but I can assure you he was worse than them. TitanicoNFLriotFAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, wiscotitansfan said: Terrible is obviously an overstatement and I am a fan of the Titans only because of Eddie but he mostly brought leadership to the table, not some fantastic run game. I don't know who those 5 HOFers he's ahead of but I can assure you he was worse than them. he said, and I quote "terrible RB"...so there's his answer. I posted his numbers and all in all he brought a good RB play to the Titans table. So I don't really know where I losted you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, TitanicoNFLriotFAN said: he said, and I quote "terrible RB"...so there's his answer. you didn't "losted" me anywhere. Was just pointing out that Eddie wasn't really all that good. It's not like I was even remotely calling you out for being wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, big2033 said: @nine and others ask yourselves, who is more likely to make a play with things break down - which often happens in the NFL. Got your answer? Good. Let him go. Let’s also ask ourselves which guy has the higher rate of converting first downs/touchdowns and has been significantly better at avoiding negative plays. Like I said earlier....I’ve already accepted the fact that the coaching staff doesn’t like Henry, even in those situations where he is proven to be more effective than Lewis. But at some point there’s going to be another situation where the team needs to run the ball in the fourth quarter to put the game away without allowing the other team time to respond. They tried using Lewis as their four-minute back in Buffalo; it didn’t go well. They did it again vs the Patriots...another three and out. (Fortunately that one wasn’t costly). Even Henry’s critics admit he’s historically been pretty darned effective in Q4 and in four-minute situations throughout his career....but for whatever reason, the current staff chooses not to use him in that role. Thats their prerogative. I just hope it doesn’t end up screwing them again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 This revisionist history on Eddie George is weird. He was the heart of the office during our Super Bowl run. Had over 1,200 yards in his first five seasons. Jerome Bettis is in the hall and doesn't even boast stats like. It was a different time, and Eddie was one of the top backs in his brief time. GLinks, and Denali 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, nine said: Let’s also ask ourselves which guy has the higher rate of converting first downs/touchdowns and has been significantly better at avoiding negative plays. Like I said earlier....I’ve already accepted the fact that the coaching staff doesn’t like Henry, even in those situations where he is proven to be more effective than Lewis. But at some point there’s going to be another situation where the team needs to run the ball in the fourth quarter to put the game away without allowing the other team time to respond. They tried using Lewis as their four-minute back in Buffalo; it didn’t go well. They did it again vs the Patriots...another three and out. (Fortunately that one wasn’t costly). Even Henry’s critics admit he’s historically been pretty darned effective in Q4 and in four-minute situations throughout his career....but for whatever reason, the current staff chooses not to use him in that role. Thats their prerogative. I just hope it doesn’t end up screwing them again. Nobody "loves" Henry. They couldn't even trade him. Yes, he's great in the 4th when opposing defenses are tired. And when you give him a running start in the Wildcat. But if you want to remain multiple, you keep giving Lewis run. In the 4th versus the Chargers ... who made the big play? What they want to see from Henry is do what Lewis has done. When given a few opportunities, make BIG plays to force their hand and give him more. Lewis has done it, Henry has not. And they're sick of waiting. Edited November 12, 2018 by big2033 LongTimeFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toddster Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, newschool said: OL play is about being in sync and now that the OL is gelling Henry deserves a shot at more PT. If the offense is in sync, why change it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: you didn't "losted" me anywhere. Was just pointing out that Eddie wasn't really all that good. It's not like I was even remotely calling you out for being wrong Ok, with that cleared out. Eddie George was an asset for the Titans. Many of us who witnessed his career from day 1 in the NFL, he always ran with swagger and was a very important piece to lead the team to play his first and only SB. His numbers do not lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, The Toddster said: If the offense is in sync, why change it? Because it can improve. Henry takes less losses behind the LOS and is a bigger threat for big gains when there is a window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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