BudsOilers Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 The fact that he's not consistently accurate, including ones he does complete, is a huge reason why the short and intermediate passing game sucks. Add in that for some reason he cannot throw effectively to his right and that he doesn't appear to process reads decisively, it's a recipe for inconsistency and frustration. His hesitation and fear of throwing interceptions also is a real issue and the coaches this year already made some veiled comments about him needing to be more decisive and trust his reads. It's year 4. It is what it is. People get mad about the comparison but he's basically a slightly better version of Jake Locker. He's incapable of running the offense that LaFluer wants to run at least at this point. It's possible that his injury is hindering his play but at the same time it's hard to reconcile with how bad he looked prior to it and the Philly game albeit his play in that game was more uneven that the stats showed. TNTitans, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, TeamRamrod27 said: @NashvilleNinja asked me if I was “fucking high” when I said “Mariota isn’t making things easy on the OL” lol As if the issue was that simple and I was just blind. Once again though, obviously the offensive line had a bad day as well. Just got sick of the entire blame going on them during the game. The blame is rarely on one guy or group. Mariota probably held onto the ball too long in at least a couple instances, the line just blew chunks/assignments, receivers were wearing defenders like capes some and weren't any kind of open, and it's likely all of those happened on the same play once or twice. Yet... Mariota is killing the franchise? I get it... big time QBs rise above and carry teams. But even big time QBs get help. Who's helping Mariota right now? titanruss, and XAEA12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, BudAdams said: The fact that he's not consistently accurate, including ones he does complete, is a huge reason why the short and intermediate passing game sucks. Add in that for some reason he cannot throw effectively to his right and that he doesn't appear to process reads decisively, it's a recipe for inconsistency and frustration. His hesitation and fear of throwing interceptions also is a real issue and the coaches this year already made some veiled comments about him needing to be more decisive and trust his reads. It's year 4. It is what it is. People get mad about the comparison but he's basically a slightly better version of Jake Locker. He's incapable of running the offense that LaFluer wants to run at least at this point. It's possible that his injury is hindering his play but at the same time it's hard to reconcile with how bad he looked prior to it and the Philly game albeit his play in that game was more uneven that the stats showed. Actually the stats showed the entire picture. He played very well outside of one interception. In fact, he would have had even better stats if it wasn't for the Jennings drop in OT. Your personal feelings of him being a gimmick QB is interfering with your ability to be objective when he plays well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: The blame is rarely on one guy or group. Mariota probably held onto the ball too long in at least a couple instances, the line just blew chunks/assignments, receivers were wearing defenders like capes some and weren't any kind of open, and it's likely all of those happened on the same play once or twice. Yet... Mariota is killing the franchise? I get it... big time QBs rise above and carry teams. But even big time QBs get help. Who's helping Mariota right now? I’m not in the Mariota is Ruining the franchise camp. Was just putting the info out there. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE75 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Marcus sucks, running game sucks, receivers suck. This all starts with the O line. This is not the dominant O line of years past. 11 sacks is absolute bullshit. A running back with 23 yards for the day is bullshit. Our offense sucks, and the O line has regressed to become a complete shit show the last few weeks. The O line is a complete fucking joke right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 hours ago, AvgJoe said: Just rewatched the game. You brave soul. TitanDuckFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: You brave soul. I’m now nominated for the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, AvgJoe said: I noticed this one as well rewatching all the sacks. The line was getting dominated. When that happens you have to hit your back foot and release. If it gets picked off or you make a bad pass so be it. You simply cannot keep holding onto the ball. Lewis is WIDE OPEN right here. AvgJoe, EagleEye, oldschool, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Can someone who follows contracts more closely tell me how much we save if we pay a rookie QB salary in 2019 versus the $20 million option to Mariota? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I noticed this one as well rewatching all the sacks. The line was getting dominated. When that happens you have to hit your back foot and release. If it gets picked off or you make a bad pass so be it. You simply cannot keep holding onto the ball. Lewis is WIDE OPEN right here. It's 3rd and 18 and he may have been looking to find someone downfield until the very end but I get your point. Mariota definitely did miss some chances that were solely on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said: All the more reason for him TO do a helicopter tour. 8MM probably doesn't know you wished death on oman all those years ago StephenIsLegend, OILERMAN, and EagleEye 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, ap24786 said: It's 3rd and 18 and he may have been looking to find someone downfield until the very end but I get your point. Mariota definitely did miss some chances that were solely on him. Lewis had more of a chance than taking a sack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I noticed this one as well rewatching all the sacks. The line was getting dominated. When that happens you have to hit your back foot and release. If it gets picked off or you make a bad pass so be it. You simply cannot keep holding onto the ball. Lewis is WIDE OPEN right here. I suspect we'll see a lot of this when the all-22 is released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I noticed this one as well rewatching all the sacks. The line was getting dominated. When that happens you have to hit your back foot and release. If it gets picked off or you make a bad pass so be it. You simply cannot keep holding onto the ball. Lewis is WIDE OPEN right here. Mariota is 8 yards behind the LOS. NO ONE except Lewis is less than 5 yards behind the LOS, and even he is 3-1/2 yards behind it. It's 3rd and 18 and we have no idea where the secondary is lurking in that shot. That's not where I'd go if I'm looking for a 1st down on 3rd & 18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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