No1TitansFan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/4/2018 at 7:23 PM, Jamalisms said: Henry is upper body. That's why he stiff arms. But he doesn't have powerful, churning legs and doesn't have a low center of gravity. "At more than 240 pounds, Henry posted one of the top 40-yard dash times during the Tide's spring testing (4.50) while recording the second-best power clean on the team (345 pounds), a 440-pound bench press, a 500-pound squat and a 35-inch vertical jump." https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/08/alabama_standout_rb_derrick_he.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Henry just doesnt have the footwork or the flexibility to be an effective back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, No1TitansFan said: "At more than 240 pounds, Henry posted one of the top 40-yard dash times during the Tide's spring testing (4.50) while recording the second-best power clean on the team (345 pounds), a 440-pound bench press, a 500-pound squat and a 35-inch vertical jump." https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/08/alabama_standout_rb_derrick_he.html Watch football more. Soxcat, OILERMAN, and headhunter 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) The Henry / Lewis debate in this pod is a prime example of OMAN pushing his agenda. He cites Henry's lack of running production (avg 3 ypc on the season) as the reason he sucks. The thing is Lewis is at 3.3 ypc on the season. That fucking sucks too. I know Lewis is talented. Yet he's not performing well in the run game. That suggests something wrong with the blocking. If the blocking is bad, maybe Henry will will also benefit from improved blocking. OMAN rejects this obvious logic because he's committed to his stance that Henry is bad and that Lewis will be the feature back. Please note: Henry is a flawed RB! He is too top heavy and can't use his size like he should. I don't think he's Gurley or anything, but I do think there's a problem with the running game in general. If Lewis starts running well and Henry still sucks then you can use Henry's shitty stats as an argument against him. It's dumb to use Henry's ypc, but to ignore Lewis's shit ypc. Edited October 7, 2018 by Titans279 Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, and Huston 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Watch football more. Watch quite a bit, just try to avoid the confirmation bias thing when I do. Henry has pushed the hole about every time this year; the things he's getting accused of happened way more last year. titanruss, Huston, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 People forget the basis of the argument: Lewis is a really small guy who cannot take the rigors of being a feature back; Henry isn’t a spare and adds a dynamic most teams don’t have with a fast RB who can also bowl over guys. He’s also solid in the screen game. This goes back to coaching more than anything. Vrabel isn’t an idiot like Fisher who was trying to pad stats with his weapon. We absolutely need Lewis, especially now with Walker out and Mathews gone. They won’t use him like a workhorse when we are winning games with next to zero production from both backs running the ball. Lewis isn’t and simply will never be a featured running back in the regular season. He’s too small and injury prone,. These coaches aren’t retarded so they will use him just enough to win games, nothing more. We need him for the playoffs. I’ve said repeatedly I would like to see Fluellen get some carries. He isn’t as dependent on blocking as Henry and Lewis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Titans279 said: he's committed to his stance that Henry is bad and that Lewis will be the feature back. I've always said they would use a rotation with both guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Henry isnt terrible but the idea hes a feature RB that's been held back by Murray and blocking is false. His limitations are what they are. Starkiller, OILERMAN, and tgo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 It's worth noting that Lewis has been on the field for 56 more snaps than Henry thor, and pat 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Fucking children and this is the only real Titans site to talk football Titans football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just wondering if there will be a podcast this week. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Tex in a Can said: Just wondering if there will be a podcast this week. Cheers. Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanedUpSince'70 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 12:48 PM, Huston said: Fucking children and this is the only real Titans site to talk football Titans football. Maybe not quite as much Titans traffic as here, but not bad. No trolling either. https://forums.footballsfuture.com/forum/26-tennessee-titans/ Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, TitanedUpSince'70 said: Maybe not quite as much Titans traffic as here, but not bad. No trolling either. https://forums.footballsfuture.com/forum/26-tennessee-titans/ Found this good post over there. Posted Monday at 02:37 PM (edited) If Marcus can't distribute the ball to average players that's one thing. Then he could be Dalton. That wasn't the issue yesterday. The issue was he successfully distributed the ball to his playmakers and they failed him with drops and turnovers. Even Brady isn't catching his own passes. What happened when all he has was Gronk at the start of the season? The Bills tried to take away Davis and Mariota's legs and make the other guys make plays. No one stepped up. How may possessions do you get in a game? Usually around 11 or 12? How many did we have yesterday? Our game was over 30 mins before the other early games, so probably around 9? Two were ruined by fumbles. One by an interception on a "slant". Another by a guy dropping an easy TD on third down. If you cut your offensive possessions in half with mistakes it's not going to be a good day offensively. Mariota made mistakes for sure, but there was a lot of ugly yesterday, even in the game plan which looked like they wanted to be conservative. You can't play conservative and turn the ball over. We have got to get better in the red zone. TitanedUpSince'70 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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