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8 hours ago, Legaltitan said:

Seriously what the fuck?

 

One guy. One fucking guy. Can make conservatives and Republicans and red blooded salt of the earth Americans cheer for foreign agents and Russian spies over law enforcement? Not just law enforcement. Not like your local fucking average intelligence nice guy but kind of dopey street cop. Like the best of the best law enforcement. The cream of the crop. The pride of America. The fbi is fucking conservative, straight laced, button downed, smart tough serious damn law enforcement. 

 

And one fucking developer turned celebrity turned politician - the triple play of shit bag professions - one fucking guy can all of a sudden make you cheer for the bad guys against the good guys. 

 

God damn y'all get your heads out of your asses. You want to keep believing in trump fine but y'all rooting for the Russian lawyers to defeat Mueller and his lawyers in court and for the bad guys to get away with it. It's a fucking joke. 

There's no way I could give this post enough likes to give it due credit.  

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Spin it, retards.

Is there ANY president, in the history of this union, other than Trump, who would proceed to go ahead and meet with Putin after 12 indictments are issued against Russian government officials like this

When a prosecutor goes to the grand jury and seeks an indictment, he's only required to present enough evidence to show probable cause that a crime was committed.  This is what Mueller has done in thi

8 hours ago, Legaltitan said:

Seriously what the fuck?

 

One guy. One fucking guy. Can make conservatives and Republicans and red blooded salt of the earth Americans cheer for foreign agents and Russian spies over law enforcement? Not just law enforcement. Not like your local fucking average intelligence nice guy but kind of dopey street cop. Like the best of the best law enforcement. The cream of the crop. The pride of America. The fbi is fucking conservative, straight laced, button downed, smart tough serious damn law enforcement. 

 

And one fucking developer turned celebrity turned politician - the triple play of shit bag professions - one fucking guy can all of a sudden make you cheer for the bad guys against the good guys. 

 

God damn y'all get your heads out of your asses. You want to keep believing in trump fine but y'all rooting for the Russian lawyers to defeat Mueller and his lawyers in court and for the bad guys to get away with it. It's a fucking joke. 

Rooting for is too mild.  Trump supporters are defending his actions.  

 

Roughly 40% of the country is thus enabling him and an attack by the Russians because this is on-going by all reports.

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2 hours ago, ctm said:

When a prosecutor goes to the grand jury and seeks an indictment, he's only required to present enough evidence to show probable cause that a crime was committed.  This is what Mueller has done in this case.

 

When the case goes to trial, then the prosecutor will present all of his evidence to establish the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Mueller isn't going to present all of his evidence until he's required to do so.

 

This is elementary stuff that the average person should know.

 

Apparently some on this board who are clamoring for all the evidence at this point are below the intelligence level of the average person if they can't understand this.

I read a thread yesterday where a guy posted maybe 35 straight times how these indictments were a win for Trump because they didn’t name him specifically. He then continued to repeat the phrase ‘THERE’S NO EVIDENCE!’ over and over again. These people are unhinged from reality. At one point he said “I support Trump, and I’ll always support Trump no matter what”.

 

They are being emboldened by the fact their subconscious is likely starting to push back on their fragile egos. At least that’s one of my theories as to why they’ve increased their demands for proof following 32 indictments. They don’t give two shits about our election being hacked. Everything starts and stops with hownit affects Trump, even to the point they won’t mind if everyone but Trump is charged and convicted. It’s the strangest political phenomenon I’ve ever witnessed. 

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17 hours ago, Btowner said:

 You might be on to something...…..

 

 

The fact that a GOP congressman, whether it's this guy or not, invites several questions.

 

Who told the congressman that he could get oppo research by contacting Gufficer 2.0?

 

Who told the congressman how to contact Gufficer?  It's not like his email address was common knowledge or subject to a google search.

 

And most importantly, was the person who told the congressman, the gatekeeper?  Was he telling other GOP congressmen the same thing?

 

Roger Stone has all but admitted that he is this guy.  But was he telling other GOPers the same thing?  This we don't know.

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24 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

We already had one rube in this forum openly post he didn’t care if Trump colluded with Russia 

The other supporters just aren’t as honest, but they fetch that water right on cue under the auspices of libtard hate with air cover from Fox and the like. Nasty times.

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The new talking points we will all see: 

 

The indictments prove no Americans were involved and Trump is obviously not under investigation. 

 

The indictment shows the speed of the transfer could only have been done by a thumb drive, proving it was an internal leak. 

 

@OzTitan

 

I don’t know enough about the computer world to have a definitive thought on that second one, but judging the way it is being discussed on forums it would seem to me to be categorically false. 

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3 hours ago, ctm said:

When a prosecutor goes to the grand jury and seeks an indictment, he's only required to present enough evidence to show probable cause that a crime was committed.  This is what Mueller has done in this case.

 

When the case goes to trial, then the prosecutor will present all of his evidence to establish the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Mueller isn't going to present all of his evidence until he's required to do so.

 

This is elementary stuff that the average person should know.

 

Apparently some on this board who are clamoring for all the evidence at this point are below the intelligence level of the average person if they can't understand this.

They even dumber than me LOL

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16 minutes ago, ben4titans said:

 

So someone incorrectly quoting a tweet so that it then fits their conspiracy theory is bogus? 

 

Again, this is the same shit with the DTjr Trump Tower Meeting. It doesn't go where you need it to go so you guys repeat media fabriactions that add a little extra so it goes where you need it to go. Same with Stone. Same with the whole Russian collusion fairy tale.

Lol Russia collusion fairy tale :)

 

Mueller is running a textbook case.

 

1) indict people to get them to flip on higher guys

2) set the stage with indictments that show what happened.

3) connect that to the Russian government. 

 

you would have to think the 4th stage will be to start connecting Americans to that conspiracy. The question will be if they go directly after Trump campaign officials including Stone at that point or wait a bit. 

 

personally I think the 4th stage will include Stone and some others then there will be a 5th stage where they go after the top guy in Trump's circle. 

 

then once all that is done, if there's evidence, they go after Trump.

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28 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

The new talking points we will all see: 

 

The indictments prove no Americans were involved and Trump is obviously not under investigation. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

 

 

Notice that Mueller and Rosenstein said that there was no collusion?

 

 

One down one to go. 

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4 minutes ago, ben4titans said:

 

Some are, some are political retribution. None are in the pursuit of honest justice. 

Interesting theory you’ve got there. You do understand the Russians are going to send counsel like the last time and Mueller will do the exact same thing, correct? He won’t allow discovery until his investigation is complete. If he never gets Trump then good, it means the president isn’t a traitor. I’m just not sure how you arrive at your last sentence when Mueller is systematically imposing our will on foreign spies. How could that be a bad thing? 

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1 minute ago, ben4titans said:

As for your other one, has anyone said on the record Trump is a target? Comey said he wasn't. Gowdy recently said he wasn't. Did I miss that he was?

This isn’t how investigations work. You don’t start at the top and work your way from there. You follow the leads and see where they go. If they don’t lead to the president then he doesn’t need to worry. If the Dems don’t flip the house he definitely doesn’t need to worry as the Republicans will do nothing regardless of Mueller’s assessment. 

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