Starkiller Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Huston said: All he has to prove is how fast he can pick up the offense and play 16 games. Stop with this nonsense. Mariota actually has to play well, too. So far he hasn’t proven he is a franchise-caliber QB. If he had built on 2016 with a better 2017 we wouldn’t be having this discussion, but he had a bad year. He also has to prove he can stay healthy because so far he has not been able to do that. He hasn’t played a full 16 game schedule yet and it’s kind of an illusion to say he only missed 1 game each of the last 2 seasons. Going into year 4 as a starter, teams should already have a pretty good idea how good their franchise QB is. We don’t really know that yet. That’s why MM has the most to prove. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, heyitsmeallen said: 100% Mariota. This is a make or break season for him. I wouldn’t call it make or break, but if Mariota has another bad season they will be pushing the panic button. Then 2019 becomes make or break. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Starkiller said: Mariota actually has to play well, too. So far he hasn’t proven he is a franchise-caliber QB. If he had built on 2016 with a better 2017 we wouldn’t be having this discussion, but he had a bad year. He also has to prove he can stay healthy because so far he has not been able to do that. He hasn’t played a full 16 game schedule yet and it’s kind of an illusion to say he only missed 1 game each of the last 2 seasons. Going into year 4 as a starter, teams should already have a pretty good idea how good their franchise QB is. We don’t really know that yet. That’s why MM has the most to prove. Marcus is a point guard that has been forced to play center his first 3 years in the league even so has the same numbers as everyone's golden boy in his first 2. Which he did playing in 2 different systems for 2 different head coaches. Do we realy need to go through all the issues with the offense last year yet he still dragged this team to the playoffs while hurt and won a road game. Hell doesn't even know how good of a QB he can be yet this is the first time an offense is designed for him. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Huston said: Marcus is a point guard that has been forced to play center his first 3 years in the league even so has the same numbers as everyone's golden boy in his first 2. Which he did playing in 2 different systems for 2 different head coaches. Do we realy need to go through all the issues with the offense last year yet he still dragged this team to the playoffs while hurt and won a road game. Hell doesn't even know how good of a QB he can be yet this is the first time an offense is designed for him. Even if we assume that all to be the case, it doesn’t change the fact that he has the most to prove... wiscotitansfan, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Even if we assume that all to be the case, it doesn’t change the fact that he has the most to prove... The guy won a fucking playoff game on the road with a MM offense, Core Davis has more to prove them him lol. EagleEye, and Soxcat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 The poll wasn't who is the most important player but who had the most to prove. Who else on the team has broken as man records as Marcus. Better yet who was the last QB to win a playoff game for the Titans. pat, and EagleEye 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Name me one QB that was a franchise QB by his 3rd year that has been through the same coaching as Marcus, or has been as successful. Edited July 13, 2018 by Huston Soxcat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 hours ago, patsplat said: Mariota likely gets another shot in that scenario. Vrabel? I think not. You actually think there is a scenario where the Titans replace another coaching staff and keep Mariota after he theoretically struggles? No F-ing way. Vrabel signed a 5 year deal, Robinson isn't firing him any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Extremely unlikely Vrabel gets fired. That isn't the issue with him having a lot to prove. He replaced a coach who won a playoff game for the first time since 2003. His hiring produced a mini-controversy among some fans and in the media. Considering that he has never coached, much less won, even the 1st regular season game, he has a lot to prove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, ctm said: Extremely unlikely Vrabel gets fired. That isn't the issue with him having a lot to prove. He replaced a coach who won a playoff game for the first time since 2003. His hiring produced a mini-controversy among some fans and in the media. Considering that he has never coached, much less won, even the 1st regular season game, he has a lot to prove. This would fall more on Robinson imo. Assume the draft, free agency and Vrabel turn out to be duds. Robinson would get blamed more than Vrabel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 BTW, Dod was replaced in the draft and is even money to even make the roster, LOL @ votes for him titanruss, and japan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: You actually think there is a scenario where the Titans replace another coaching staff and keep Mariota after he theoretically struggles? No F-ing way. Vrabel signed a 5 year deal, Robinson isn't firing him any time soon. I don't think he's getting fired soon, but just because his hiring cycle is out of sync with Mariota doesn't mean he has less to prove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 @OILERMAN feel like you are conflating most important, which I agree is Mariota, with most to prove. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Huston said: Name me one QB that was a franchise QB by his 3rd year that has been through the same coaching as Marcus, or has been as successful. Again, his ability to learn new offenses quick doesn't mean shit going forward... Our only chance at a successful franchise is to have stability so going through 2 coaches already doesn't really matter Edited July 13, 2018 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Huston said: All he has to prove is how fast he can pick up the offense and play 16 games. Stop with this nonsense. ...Along with how well he plays those 16 games and not just 8 or so of them at an elite level. These players don't give a damn how well Mariota picks up the intricacies of the offense by week 3, he'll be just as competent in it as anyone on the team. They want him to prove he can play his best week in and week out. How many player interviews did you watch about the end of season Mariota last year? They ALL talked about them losing their shit when Mariota stiff armed the Jag and showed some swagger. They want that guy the whole season, not one who is apologizing for the receivers or backs fucking up an assignment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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