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The Patriots Dynasty Whose Most Responsible (Is Brady leading a revolt against Belichick?)

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3 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Let's try an exercise, using the SB winning years from early in Brady's career.  One set of data represents how his QB rating was in relation to the other QBs in the league, and the other represents points allowed by the NE defense.  Which do you think played a greater factor in the success of the team during these years?

 

2001- 6th

2003- 1st

2004- 3rd

 

2001- 22nd

2003- 22nd

2004- 15th

The defense was always Belichick bread and butter and while they had a big hand in things Brady did as well. Brady in those three Super Bowl years had a total of 6 fourth quarter comebacks and 9 game winning drives. In 2004 Brady lead the offense to the 4th ranking in points and 7th in total offense so by then he was already coming into his own.

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patsplat   

Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson are incredible QBs.  Brady's started to decline and is probably right now worse than those two.  But he's had a stronger career by far.

 

To do these comparisons you're gonna have to wait.

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abc2330   
1 minute ago, MIKE75 said:

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The defense was always Belichick bread and butter and while they had a big hand in things Brady did as well. Brady in those three Super Bowl years had a total of 6 fourth quarter comebacks and 9 game winning drives. In 2004 Brady lead the offense to the 4th ranking in points and 7th in total offense so by then he was already coming into his own.

People act as if 4th quarter comebacks are solely the work of the QB.  Anyone remember the 4th quarter of the Seattle game? The Atlanta game?  The Jacksonville game?  NE's defense stepped up big when it matter most, as they have as long as Brady has been around.

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OILERMAN   
6 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

If a championship only required the QB with the 22nd best QB rating in the league, there would be a lot more champions.

How about 5 championships and the 3rd best rating of all time?

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abc2330   
3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

How about 5 championships and the 3rd best rating of all time?

He won 3 of those with an average to below average QB rating.  Sure, that was boosted once he acquired 2 of the most dominant receivers of all time and the best supporting casts in the league, but his defenses were still excellent throughout all of their SB runs (minus the last SB)

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MIKE75   

Best franchise streaks during the Super Bowl era......

 

New England---2001 through 2017....17 straight winning seasons,15 postseason berths,27 playoff wins,12 AFC Championship game appearances,8 times AFC Champions,8 Super Bowl appearances and 5 Super Bowl wins.

 

San Francisco---1981 through 1998....17 winning seasons, had 16 straight winning seasons,16 postseason berths,22 playoff wins,played in 10 NFC Championship games,Won 5 NFC Championships,Had 5 Super Bowl appearances and won 5 Super Bowls.

 

Green Bay--1993 through 2016....Through 24 seasons had 20 winning seasons and 19 postseason berths,21 playoff wins, 7 NFC Championship Game appearances,3 times NFC Champions,3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 Super Bowl wins.

 

Dallas---1966 through 1985....20 straight winning seasons,20 playoff wins,18 postseason berths,12 NFC Championship appearances,5 times NFC Champions,5 Super Bowl appearances winning 2 Super Bowls.

 

Oakland---1966 through 1985....16 straight winning seasons and 19 winning seasons out of 20 from '66-'85,15 postseason berths,20 playoff wins,11 AFC Championship game appearances,4 times AFC Champions,4 Super Bowl appearances and 3 Super Bowl wins.

 

Pittsburgh was strictly between 1972 thru 1984 13 straight winning seasons,11 postseason berths,13 playoff wins and 4 AFC Championship game appearances and 4 times AFC Champions,4 Super Bowl appearances and 4 Super Bowl wins. Also from 1992 thru 2017 they have 18 postseason appearances,9 AFC Championship game appearances and 4 times AFC Champions,4 Super Bowl appearances and 2 Super Bowl wins.

 

Miami missed the postseason 4 times between 1966 and 1969 and 4 more times between 1975 and 1980 although they went to postseason 12 times with 14 winning seasons in 16 years from 1970 thru 1985 were 5 time AFC Champions had 5 Super Bowl appearances winning 2 Super Bowls.

 

Denver from 1983 thru 1998 made the postseason 10 times,11 winning seasons,14 postseason wins,6 AFC Championship Appearances,5 times AFC Champions,5 Super Bowl appearances winning 2 Super Bowls.

 

Indianapolis from 1999 thru 2014 14 winning seasons out of 16 seasons,14 postseason berths,12 playoff wins, 4 AFC Championship Game appearances,2 times AFC Champions,2 Super Bowl appearances and 1 Super Bowl win.  From 2002 thru 2014 they had 12 out of 13 seasons with at least 10 wins and 10 seasons with 11 wins or more.

 

Baltimore from 2000 thru 2014 had 10 postseason appearances,13 playoff wins,4 AFC Championship Game appearances,2 times AFC Champions,2 Super Bowl appearances and 2 Super Bowl win.

 

No other teams had long stretches of winning,The Giants won 2 titles between 1986 and 1990 then only made the postseason just 2 more times the whole 90's decade. From 2007 and 2011 won 2 more titles. Between 2009 and 2017 in that 9 year period they only made the postseason 2 times.

 

Between 1973 and 1989 the LA Rams made the postseason 14 times,going to 7 NFC Championship appearances and 1 Super Bowl appearance.

 

Between 1968 and 1982 Minnesota made the postseason 12 times,going to 5 NFC Championship appearances,4 time NFC Champions and 4 Super Bowl appearances.

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MIKE75   

Hmmmmmmmmmm...........

 

What a coincidence we do a 10 page Belichick pre Brady and with Brady thread and then this pops up on twitter.....

 

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Soxcat   

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BB is a better coach with Brady and the Pats wouldn't have won as many games without Brady........

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37 minutes ago, Soxcat said:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say BB is a better coach with Brady and the Pats wouldn't have won as many games without Brady........

Hey FistShaker, not many homers on the board at this time of the morning huh? Just an obsessed no life tard who likes talking to himself. Remember what I told you about the cammo you fucking idiot.

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