begooode Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 The idea of massive tax cuts should come with massive spending cuts, yes, otherwise how is it good for long-term economic growth if the government competes for capital to float an ever increasing debt load? Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justafan Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The big problem with the tax cuts is that they not only didn't cut spending but they actually increased it. That's just bad money management 101. Mythos27, begooode, reo, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 It's just stupid to give corporations a massive tax cut when the economy was already good and they were flush with more cash than they've ever had. Pragidealist, Omar, reo, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post begooode Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Biggest rewrite of the tax code in 30 years done in 2 months with no hearings all while under direct pressure from GOP donor base. reo, Pragidealist, IsntLifeFunny, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 8 hours ago, OILERMAN said: It's just stupid to give corporations a massive tax cut when the economy was already good and they were flush with more cash than they've ever had. The problem is the market became dependent upon it. Deregulation, end of Obamacare, and tax cuts were a major factor in Trump being elected in the first place. If he failed at 2 of 3 then the market would have cratered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_TITAN Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 If tax cuts lead to smaller government then that is a good thing. Government wastes your money, and should be forced to make the hard decisions that leads to cutting a lot of the useless shit they do. Justafan, and begooode 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, THE_TITAN said: If tax cuts lead to smaller government then that is a good thing. Government wastes your money, and should be forced to make the hard decisions that leads to cutting a lot of the useless shit they do. That's good and all but instead of making those hard choices, they ballooned the deficit. The Republicans have proven to be just as big, if not bigger, on spending as the Democrats. reo, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_TITAN Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Justafan said: That's good and all but instead of making those hard choices, they ballooned the deficit. The Republicans have proven to be just as big, if not bigger, on spending as the Democrats. Romney would've slashed the deficit, shame he never came into power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, THE_TITAN said: Romney would've slashed the deficit, shame he never came into power. I agree. I think Romney was an underrated candidate. I didn't like everything about him (way too religious for me) but he understood that the government spending was out of control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_TITAN Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Justafan said: I agree. I think Romney was an underrated candidate. I didn't like everything about him (way too religious for me) but he understood that the government spending was out of control. Yeah I wasn't a fan of his religion either. But as we have come to see he is a decent man. Also he saw the Russian threat where Obama didn't. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, THE_TITAN said: Yeah I wasn't a fan of his religion either. But as we have come to see he is a decent man. Also he saw the Russian threat where Obama didn't. Obama's foreign policy was a joke. He should have pulled troops out immediately. Instead, he kept us mired for 8 more years because he didn't want to be responsible for the violence. The GOP attacked him anyways when he finally pulled out of Iraq and the violence ensued. All he did was waste human lives. Syria, Libia both disasters. Ukraine and Crimea? Wow.. talk about letting Putin take your lunch. I liked the Iran deal (I know many disagree but the US has relied too heavily on military might to get what they want, moves toward diplomacy are a good thing) but that was probably his greatest achievement foreign policy wise which is pretty sad. Edited April 23, 2018 by Justafan Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Those evil unions, fighting for healthcare and raising minimum wage. Meanwhile, GOP is in bed with mercenaries, arms dealers, oil companies. They drink your milkshake! They suck it right up! reo, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titansgoodluckcharm Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, patsplat said: Those evil unions, fighting for healthcare and raising minimum wage. Meanwhile, GOP is in bed with mercenaries, arms dealers, oil companies. They drink your milkshake! They suck it right up! Pat you can't be this naive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titansgoodluckcharm Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 We did a poll one time asking who was ready for a 3rd party, and who had faith in their own. A majority of TR (might've ended up tied) said they wanted a 3rd party. The reason being is that both parties are so corrupt and far from their original missions. Largest organizing/mobilizing we had in this country for a 3rd party was sabotaged by who? Who @patsplat? I just want to hear you say it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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