Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 You guys going to make fools of yourselves arguing about it again, or are you going to accept reality and discuss what's wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphardy Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 True, but Byard saved their ass all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) LOL. Change the title to "The Cleveland O is worse than the Titans D" then you have something. Lol you just don't know how to lose. The offense looked bad today ... but the D is still worse. They've looked great versus the Dolphins and Browns lol. You sure got us in the corner now @Jamalisms Edited October 22, 2017 by big2033 pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, big2033 said: LOL. Change the title to "The Cleveland O is worse than the Titans D" Jesus. That's your argument? C_Train 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 The defense isn't nearly as talented as the offense, but the offense is designed much worse. Mularkey won't be fired, but Robiskie absolutely should be. cmrm123, and mmmmmbeeer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Jesus. That's your argument? Pretty simple one actually. If you want to use this as an indicator of our defense is better than our offense when every other statistic says otherwise ... yeah ... that's my argument. You're taking a victory lap on an offense that swapped QBs midway AND THEN lost their franchise left tackle lol. If you want to talk about the offense fine ... but trying to be right about some dumb shit you said last week shows how petty you are and it's all about being right. I get it though. You got embarrassed last week and are trying to save face. It's not going to work. The defense is worse than the offense ... but the offense needs to make some changes. Edited October 22, 2017 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Thank you for self-reporting Big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Robiskie showed arrogance today or incompetence in not changing what was clearly not working. The Browns wanted to shut down the run game and force a injured Mariota to beat him. Robiskie consistently put Mariota in situations where it was 3rd and very long. And Mariota’s receivers dropped some balls that should have been caught (Decker). The missed pass to Delanie in the end zone was all on Marcus. NashvilleNinja, big2033, and pamo9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 @big2033 I get that you have an intense personal grudge against Jamal, but imagine it's someone, anyone else. I admit, I think the D has been terrible and on paper have given the O the benefit of the doubt more because of Mariota, injuries, and the Jags win. But his argument isn't absurd. The offense has been atrocious against bad teams. We have a franchise QB who the scheme is making look on par with Cody Kesslar. The defense (Byard) today had 3 ints, and the offense got zero points off the turnovers. The Jets O put 28 on Miami. The Jags and Bortles passed all over the Colts. We couldn't score a TD against a bad Browns team without their best CB and Safety. I don't know if the offense is truly worse, but it's a whole lot closer than many want to admit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Earlier Jamal said he was only talking about the Colts game, not the season.... Is this just for this game or are we talking about the season now? I wouldn't really give the defense much credit. Byard caught some terrible passes and once Thomas went down they couldn't protect their terrible QBs. And that was all happening when the Browns offense was shooting themselves in the foot. big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cenj said: @big2033 I get that you have an intense personal grudge against Jamal, but imagine it's someone, anyone else. I admit, I think the D has been terrible and on paper have given the O the benefit of the doubt more because of Mariota, injuries, and the Jags win. But his argument isn't absurd. The offense has been atrocious against bad teams. We have a franchise QB who the scheme is making look on par with Cody Kesslar. The defense (Byard) today had 3 ints, and the offense got zero points off the turnovers. The Jets O put 28 on Miami. The Jags and Bortles passed all over the Colts. We couldn't score a TD against a bad Browns team without their best CB and Safety. I don't know if the offense is truly worse, but it's a whole lot closer than many want to admit. OK .. let's play this game. The Colts scored zero versus the Jags. Lost 27-0 We allowed 22 points last week versus the Colts and scored 37 versus the Jags. Don't cherry pick stats @cenj. I know scoring 12 against the Browns is frustrating but we're being a little knee jerk. We gave up 57 points to the Texans. And like Oilerman said ... this was about last week. Jamal is trying to win an argument that was clearly an embarrassment for him because NET points is NOT a stat. Edited October 22, 2017 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, cenj said: We have a franchise QB who the scheme is making look on par with Cody Kesslar. Stop blaming the scheme when Mariota plays like a turd. He missed easy wide open passes today, one for an easy TD. That wasn't the scheme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Mularkey is a little bitch. He can publicly call out the defense and Lebeau after the Houston game but has no balls to call out his offensive gameplan and his coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Robiskie showed arrogance today or incompetence in not changing what was clearly not working. The Browns wanted to shut down the run game and force a injured Mariota to beat him. Robiskie consistently put Mariota in situations where it was 3rd and very long. And Mariota’s receivers dropped some balls that should have been caught (Decker). The missed pass to Delanie in the end zone was all on Marcus. A fair assessment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I thought the coaches went conservative and tried to not make mistakes and try and get out with a win..... It ended up working but it was risky and was extremely hard to watch pamo9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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