Justafan Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 I know this could offend some people here but I find two interesting sides to this debate. How do people respond to something like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Curtis Aloysius said: Also, MVP caliber players have said he is good enough to play. Your moronic narrative he isn’t a good player is over exhausted. Come up with something new. Hes killed the ratings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Justafan said: I know this could offend some people here but I find two interesting sides to this debate. How do people respond to something like this? The white guy is very articulate, probably IQ 130+. The black guy, not so smart. I would have a one on one with anybody in this forum. I have intelligent answers for every point he produces and he makes some great points. But in the end it's not about debating, it's about finding solutions. When a race of people have been dehumanized, how long does that take to correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Justafan said: I know this could offend some people here but I find two interesting sides to this debate. How do people respond to something like this? How can you disagree with this guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Let me tell just a small part of my story. I had business that I presented only to black people. I did well. I was talking to a white friend and I told him I could make more, but I didn't think white people would use my services. He said he didn't think white people were prejudiced like that and wouldn't care what color I was. He was 100% right and I went on to make a lot of money. I grew up at a time when that was not true, but times change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Number9 said: Let me tell just a small part of my story. I had business that I presented only to black people. I did well. I was talking to a white friend and I told him I could make more, but I didn't think white people would use my services. He said he didn't think white people were prejudiced like that and wouldn't care what color I was. He was 100% right and I went on to make a lot of money. I grew up at a time when that was not true, but times change. We literally just had the first black president for almost a decade, uh yeah times have changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: We literally just had the first black president for almost a decade, uh yeah times have changed Could you make a response and articulate it into more than this one line? What is your point for saying what you posted. Fill in some kind of thoughts to improve the conversation and guide it to a higher place. My comments are about something that happened almost 40 years ago. Curtis Aloysius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Number9 said: The white guy is very articulate, probably IQ 130+. The black guy, not so smart. I would have a one on one with anybody in this forum. I have intelligent answers for every point he produces and he makes some great points. But in the end it's not about debating, it's about finding solutions. When a race of people have been dehumanized, how long does that take to correct? Shapiro is a very bright guy. Which is why it's important, I think, to hear what he has to say. I'm just curious what people think because he has a few of these and a website and he makes some pretty convincing arguments. I honestly don't know where to stand on this issue personally. Treat people with kindness and not cruelty. I can get down with that. I think we all can. I think we all want to live in a world where our kids are better off than we are, and so I hope everyone here achieves that. It's how that is actually accomplished and what the facts concerning white privilege are that I think there is a divide. Just my two cents. Not trying to start an argument and not taking a side other than I'm against racism and in favor of facts, I think we could all try to be a little kinder to each other, and I concede I'm not nearly as smart on this subject as others. luvyablue256, and Number9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Number9 said: Could you make a response and articulate it into more than this one line? What is your point for saying what you posted. Fill in some kind of thoughts to improve the conversation and guide it to a higher place. My comments are about something that happened almost 40 years ago. Ill add one more sentence. Stop living in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, nine said: If that's the case, then probably gonna be a while. I doubt anyone will find a coach or GM who will voluntarily sign up for the inevitable media frenzy and constant distractions that would result from signing Kaepernick. Hell, just offering him a tryout would result in a massive furor. And by the same token...I doubt any NFL owner will offer up his billion-dollar-plus franchise as the the platform and vehicle for Kaepernick's political agenda. I really think these owners are passing on an absolute PR coup destined to expand one of the team's fan base considerably. Other than your Breitbart/Fox News coverage, most media outlets would be singing the franchise's praises for stepping out on a limb and "doing the right thing". Trump will whine on the Twitter but, really, is that a bad thing considering his approval ratings? But, alas, we're talking about a bunch of old, rich, white dudes who won't want to rock the boat or risk damaging their teams' valuations. pat, and Curtis Aloysius 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Curtis Aloysius said: Which sounds even sillier when you look at the scrubs being signed and losing on a constant. Also you dont own the Titans, so it’s not your team. You call it a distraction but it won’t be any less a distraction than what’s going on all over the league. The players are taking a stand, they aren’t just sticking to sports. Those days are over, these “distractions” are the new norm in the NFL. I'm a fan who pays for merchandise and supports by watching the product (however good or bad) put on the field. I can actually claim them as my team. TitanJoe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Curtis Aloysius said: What would that prove? But go ahead it could be fun. It's just for funsies. It would prove that you are making Kaep more polarizing than he actually is around here. headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Aloysius Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said: I really think these owners are passing on an absolute PR coup destined to expand one of the team's fan base considerably. Other than your Breitbart/Fox News coverage, most media outlets would be singing the franchise's praises for stepping out on a limb and "doing the right thing". Trump will whine on the Twitter but, really, is that a bad thing considering his approval ratings? But, alas, we're talking about a bunch of old, rich, white dudes who won't want to rock the boat or risk damaging their teams' valuations. Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Aloysius Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said: It's just for funsies. It would prove that you are making Kaep more polarizing than he actually is around here. So do it. I have no issues with that lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Aloysius Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said: I'm a fan who pays for merchandise and supports by watching the product (however good or bad) put on the field. I can actually claim them as my team. No, lol it doesn’t work that way haha. You’re just a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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