AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 that PK article outlining how JRob scouted Logan Ryan is an interesting snapshot of how his use of analytics could be a guide to possible draft targets. knowing that JRob looks for DB's with good ball skills and the ability to constantly contest catches I used the FBS CFB database to seek out the top DB's in terms of passes broken up (PBU) and INT's. http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/38 what did stand out a lot of the top CB names didn't appear on the list, I put this down to opposition offenses throwing away from them. some names that popped up that might be worth keeping an eye on. Tedric Thompson who led the FBS in combined PBU/INT with 23, 16 PBU and 7 INT could be available 3rd round Tre'Davious White 14 PBU and 2 INT considered a late 1st to 2nd rounder Adoree' Jackson 11 PBU and 5 INT considered a 2nd to 3rd rounder Jourdan Lewis 11 PBU and 2 INT considered a 2nd rounder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshimitsu Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Good insight here, although I'd like to see this kind of stuff ran on known NFL bums like Valentino Blake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Great idea for a thread. I do wonder how JRob factors in when a CB is playing so well teams just don't throw at him often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Yoshimitsu said: Good insight here, although I'd like to see this kind of stuff ran on known NFL bums like Valentino Blake. Throw analytics out the window with him, his Special Teams prowess is off the charts. It's crazy we are not fielding trade offers But yeah, I wonder how much analytical work these number guys do on players currently in the NFL compared to mostly just prospects Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamesedinasour Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Perrish Cox led the nation in PBUs/game in 2009. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, siamesedinasour said: Perrish Cox led the nation in PBUs in 2009. I remember wanting us to draft him that year and got excited when we signed him. I think he just gambles too much and is a poor technician in coverage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Soxcat said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000777165/article/what-we-learned-from-shrine-game-moreau-could-be-1strounder This draft is so strong at CB there will be first round talent going into the 2nd round. You would think at #18 we could have multiple prospect that fit our press style. The Moreau kid has to be a huge upgrade to a guy like Cox who looked stiff and slow. I'm starting to like the idea of trading down, only if we can stay within the top 10 area and aquire a high 2nd. It'd be a dream that likely won't happen but if we could trade with the Bills, land Foster at 10 somehow, OJ Howard at 18 and a CB in the 2nd. Oh man, I don't care what we would have done for the rest of the offseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Adams & Adoree? Plus one of these Colorado boys hunting for a roster spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlers Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Shouldn't the lack of throws to a defender figure in their effectiveness too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshimitsu Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I'd like to see Adoree as he is a playmaker and can make a difference in multiple aspects of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/9581177/new-jacksonville-jaguars-coach-gus-bradley-relies-analytics-espn-magazine "The page titled "Blaine QB Rating Stats" revealed that when adjusted for drops, throwaways and spikes, Gabbert's passer rating in 2012 was a respectable 82.8. The next page, "Blaine Time in the Pocket," detailed the Jags' woeful pass protection: The line gave Gabbert an average of just 2.56 seconds to throw the ball. When he had more than 2.6 seconds to throw, his QB rating jumped to 84.5. The final page, "Blaine Under Pressure," showed that when facing a six-man rush, Gabbert ranked first among QBs in completion percentage. Bradley was convinced that Gabbert deserved another shot. Six weeks later the Jags used the second pick in the draft to upgrade his protection, selecting Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 There is no magic bullet. Atlanta is huge on analytics (maybe the biggest user currently), while Pittsburgh ignores them completely. The Jags used analytics to rationalize multiple terrible personnel decisions. Some folks are winners, and some are losers. It seems like we got a winner in JRob and I think he'll find the right guys either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 in today's Titans in Two Mike Keith once again mentions JRob's love of analytics, seems to be a theme this offseason, can't remember it being that much of a topic when he first took over. sounds like the late round slot receivers are going to be an area of focus at the senior bowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, cenj said: http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/9581177/new-jacksonville-jaguars-coach-gus-bradley-relies-analytics-espn-magazine "The page titled "Blaine QB Rating Stats" revealed that when adjusted for drops, throwaways and spikes, Gabbert's passer rating in 2012 was a respectable 82.8. The next page, "Blaine Time in the Pocket," detailed the Jags' woeful pass protection: The line gave Gabbert an average of just 2.56 seconds to throw the ball. When he had more than 2.6 seconds to throw, his QB rating jumped to 84.5. The final page, "Blaine Under Pressure," showed that when facing a six-man rush, Gabbert ranked first among QBs in completion percentage. Bradley was convinced that Gabbert deserved another shot. Six weeks later the Jags used the second pick in the draft to upgrade his protection, selecting Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel." the problem is that the ultimate decision makers do not understand analytics enough to make decisions. they read what they want to read. they dont understand that EVERY QB in the leagues rating jumps significantly when those stats improve... and they dont understand how their QB is just good at finding the dumpoff on blitzes and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 analytics are the future. everything can be broken down to nearly predictable outcomes given enough data.... or at least statistically significant outcomes. the only problem with them now is what constitutes good data and basically we need more of it. some think they have a little significant data already. they probably do. but it still doent mean they are going to guess right every time. everything still has a % chance of working or not. you just have to go with what gives the better chance more than what doesnt. people already do it with face to face interviews. they guess based on feel and appearance and percieved attitude. you are making small statistical decisions every day. analytics just attempts to quantify that and give you numbers to look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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