Rogue Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's not the court bypassing the states. It was the states trying to legislate outside of their constitutional rights. Constitutionality aside, the case is clearly an issue of one side trying to limit the rights of another. There is no practical reason to take the right to marry away from gay people. It's the kind of thing the Constitution was written to prevent and the idea behind the phrase "tyranny of the majority". While the idea is correct, they still lived under the "tyranny of the majority" for most of history. It took the majority flipping on the issue to get to this day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Here is my suggestion to people who don't like the idea that gay people can get married to each other now... Don't marry a gay person. Problem solved. Here's the real problem. Republican governors across the south are ordering the confederate flag taken down. Republican appointees, Roberts and Kennedy, to the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare and gay marriage with the deciding votes. If you are a conservative republican, who are you going to be mad at? Edited June 27, 2015 by ctm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 The constitution (of which the 14th amendment is part) over rides any law a state may enact. The law provides important benefits to anyone who is married, including tax benefits, spousal social security benefits and important life and death choices. To deny marriage to anyone is to deny these benefits and make a mockery of equal protection under the law. Civil unions does not deny those benefits. It is judicial activism to say marriage must be allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Civil unions does not deny those benefits. It is judicial activism to say marriage must be allowed. Take it up with justice Kennedy. He said the 14th amendment applies and prevails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Civil unions does not deny those benefits. It is judicial activism to say marriage must be allowed. so then, other than the name, what would be the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Here's the real problem. Republican governors across the south are ordering the confederate flag taken down. Republican appointees, Roberts and Kennedy, to the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare and gay marriage with the deciding votes. If you are a conservative republican, who are you going to be mad at? Well, Obama, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 All of this is the fault of the Republican takeover of Congress!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Should we merge this thread with the eating bootie thread? are you a fagit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 "I believe this Supreme Court decision is a grave mistake. Five unelected judges have taken it upon themselves to redefine the institution of marriage, an institution that the author of this decision acknowledges ‘has been with us for millennia.’ In 2006 I, like millions of Americans, voted to amend our state constitution to protect the institution of marriage from exactly this type of judicial activism. The states are the proper place for these decisions to be made, and as we have seen repeatedly over the last few days, we will need a conservative president who will appoint men and women to the Court who will faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our land without injecting their own political agendas. As a result of this decision, the only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage. Recognizing that our Founders made our Constitution difficult to amend, I am reminded that it was first amended to protect our ‘First Freedom’ - the free exercise of religion. The First Amendment does not simply protect a narrow ‘right to worship,’ but provides broad protection to individuals and institutions to worship and act in accordance with their religious beliefs. In fact, the Wisconsin constitution explicitly protects the rights of conscience of our citizens. I can assure all Wisconsinites concerned about the impact of today’s decision that your conscience rights will be protected, and the government will not coerce you to act against your religious beliefs. I call on the president and all governors to join me in reassuring millions of Americans that the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their deeply held religious beliefs. No one wants to live in a country where the government coerces people to act in opposition to their conscience. We will continue to fight for the freedoms of all Americans." -Scott Walker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Meanwhile,and off-topic, a real President was busy: https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-reverend-president-obama-sings-amazing-122531605241.html CreepingDeath, titansfb, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 "I believe this Supreme Court decision is a grave mistake. Five unelected judges have taken it upon themselves to redefine the institution of marriage, an institution that the author of this decision acknowledges ‘has been with us for millennia.’ In 2006 I, like millions of Americans, voted to amend our state constitution to protect the institution of marriage from exactly this type of judicial activism. The states are the proper place for these decisions to be made, and as we have seen repeatedly over the last few days, we will need a conservative president who will appoint men and women to the Court who will faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our land without injecting their own political agendas. As a result of this decision, the only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage. Recognizing that our Founders made our Constitution difficult to amend, I am reminded that it was first amended to protect our ‘First Freedom’ - the free exercise of religion. The First Amendment does not simply protect a narrow ‘right to worship,’ but provides broad protection to individuals and institutions to worship and act in accordance with their religious beliefs. In fact, the Wisconsin constitution explicitly protects the rights of conscience of our citizens. I can assure all Wisconsinites concerned about the impact of today’s decision that your conscience rights will be protected, and the government will not coerce you to act against your religious beliefs. I call on the president and all governors to join me in reassuring millions of Americans that the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their deeply held religious beliefs. No one wants to live in a country where the government coerces people to act in opposition to their conscience. We will continue to fight for the freedoms of all Americans." -Scott Walker "Free exercise of religion" - he says this but means "Christians only." And "...the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their... beliefs." - Yeah, throw in some pot-stirring Satanists to go up against Christian-driven laws and see what happens. (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/satanists-missouri-abortion-law/2015/06/24/id/652099/ ) titansfb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I call on the president and all governors to join me in reassuring millions of Americans that the government will not force them to participate in activities that violate their deeply held religious beliefs. No one wants to live in a country where the government coerces people to act in opposition to their conscience. We will continue to fight for the freedoms of all Americans." -Scott Walker does he think the Supreme Court just ruled that people are now required to marry gay people of their own gender? or, even worse, will people ge forced to... gasp... bake a cake for gay people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Meanwhile,and off-topic, a real President was busy: https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-reverend-president-obama-sings-amazing-122531605241.html he seemed a bit off key this time. Maybe he should have sung Al Green again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 he seemed a bit off key this time. Maybe he should have sung Al Green again... His one weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 The 14th amendment to the constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. There are important benefits under the law to being married, including the tax status of married filing jointly, the spousal social security benefit and the right of a spouse to make life/death decisions. The 14th amendment overrides any right of the states. It will be interesting how many will go against this simple fact. The fact four Supreme Court Justices would is honestly kind of scary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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