Face Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Steeler fans were raving on PFT how good a job he did for them filling in for Pouncey last year. I realize it's a moot point now & the guy did tear his Achilles last year but I still can't believe Munchak cut this guy for Rob Turner. Horrible move. Webster used up way too much money & resources on the interior OL last year but Munch choosing Turner over FV pretty much because Velasco sucked in one preseason game might take the cake as the most retarded move last year. Velasco was a perfectly fine starting Center who should have actually been extended, and this was obvious in week 2 when the Steelers brought him in off the street & he looked great against the Bengals of all teams. Meanwhile Turner was quite possibly the worst starting OL in football. The first Texan game, the Chief game, and the Seattle game were all extremely close with the offense sucking, it's not a huge stretch to believe that this move may have cost the team a playoff spot. The Chief game especially when Turner got cuckolded on the goal line. Starkiller, OILERMAN, Omar, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yep. I get how bad the line was in 2012. I even said so, a lot. You'd still think that the only interior guy who wasn't terrible might have been nice to have around considering every single other guy who even has a snap at Guard or Center in 2012 had already been shipped out... especially because his alternative was surprisingly bad. Face 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 And you guys think CJ was done because CJ was bad? Â LOL. Â If you think Velasco was a "bad cut" just wait til you see CJ with a OL and staff ready to use him. Â TN problem was always the OL and staff, not the RB. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 And you guys think CJ was done because CJ was bad? Â Yes Denali 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMJ Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 BONGO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yep. I get how bad the line was in 2012. I even said so, a lot. You'd still think that the only interior guy who wasn't terrible might have been nice to have around considering every single other guy who even has a snap at Guard or Center in 2012 had already been shipped out... especially because his alternative was surprisingly bad. After the 2012 season a few sites had Velasco as a top 10 Center (Bleacher Report had him 7th), & he very well may have been. The reasoning for the cut was that he was more of a power, man blocking type & they were a zone blocking team, which may have made some sense if he wasn't actually good in the same scheme the year before & his replacement wasn't atrocious. I always thought too big a deal was made of the zone vs man blocking schemes anyway, every team does both. Some run plays require man blocking, some zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 As far as CJ I still think, while there's a few factors, that he was never the same after the '09 season. I get why the team went for the 2000 yards but it just wore him down, you could see that at the end of the season, he just never had the same pop. That's just my opinion though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 BONGO!!!! Are these 2 juggernauts really about to go at it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The team saved a lot of money by cutting Velasco, he was tendered at 2 mill I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The team saved a lot of money by cutting Velasco, he was tendered at 2 mill I believe. Yeah but we would have been much better off paying him the 2 mil & keeping him as the starting center. Turner was pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yeah but we would have been much better off paying him the 2 mil & keeping him as the starting center. Turner was pathetic. Â Oh absolutely, I'm just saying that was likely part of the reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 And you guys think CJ was done because CJ was bad? LOL. If you think Velasco was a "bad cut" just wait til you see CJ with a OL and staff ready to use him. TN problem was always the OL and staff, not the RB. "2500" Stfu OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denali Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 CJ: A hero misunderstood. OILERMAN, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiler FANatic Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Velasco was a perfectly fine starting Center who should have actually been extended, and this was obvious in week 2 when the Steelers brought him in off the street & he looked great against the Bengals of all teams. Â If he was really that good, I'm sure they would have kept him. Their OL has sucked for years and Big Ben has been paying the price. I'm happy with Schwenke at center, he'll be just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 They probably would have kept him if he hadn't injured his Achilles last November. That's the only reason it took this long for him to sign with anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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