CreepingDeath

Just read that GRRM is supposedly not even watching the show anymore. The excuse he gave was a polite "too busy."

Enjoyed the article and the stats.

Girls, girls, both of you are pretty. Here are the current standings: Show: very flawed but will be completed Books: not finished and not on pace to be finished by GRRM.

I agree. And I enjoy seeing a story I love on the screen in HD. My complaint, and I imagine I speak for others, is that this is our one version of this story that we will see on the screen - if not to be completed at all. Hell, book readers bitch about the extra detail in the 4th and 5th books. (I personally didn't mind.)

People noticed all of the weird "jumps" and interesting changes. However, many "middle-ground" book readers allowed that changes were bound to happen due to the constraints of TV. Littlefinger jumping all over the map in season 2 comes to mind about one of the first bigger "teleporting" problems (to Renly's camp, to Harrenhall, to King's Landing, etc -- which in season 7's standards would be completely reasonable). Perhaps if enough people complained in season 2, season 7 would better follow the rules of Westeros.

Target is out of stock.

Walmart was the only one to go live for me. Had one in my cart (wouldn't allow more than one) and then as I attempted my password, got a message it was out of stock. Fuck.

It should be noted that the Taylor above is the DIRECTOR of the latest episode, not just a critic. Wow, indeed! If the people in charge stop giving a shit, then we should expect more of this going forward. Reminds me of the other director defending Ed Shereen's cameo and how much screen time was provided to him compared to other "guest stars" that aren't recognized at all. These guys apparently believe they are above any critique and the fans should be happy with whatever shit they throw at us. If they don't care about the product, how did they get the job?

I believe many here have explained this sufficiently but here's an example. Teen Titans Go! on Cartoon Network can do any damn thing they please and their audience doesn't give a damn. The "but dragons!!!" argument works. The whole show is an absurd cartoon that screws with everything (including the original characters' behaviors). THAT' an example of "but dragons!!!" A show that bases itself mostly in reality can't do stuff like that. The type of fiction that GoT aims for is realistic. Another example is "The Man in High Castle" is fiction but is based in a reality that obviously doesn't exist. If stupid shit started happening, does it get waved away with a "but it's fiction, so you shouldn't care" excuse? The Walking Dead sucks now because of stupid shit the writers do, too. Shows that aim to create a world have more pressure to live in said world. Shows that live within our reality (sit-coms, crime, etc.) tend not to put themselves in these situations.

Fun read.

I'm not happy with the image of the gimp locked in a cage with turtles. Or even any other type of pet. But I suppose that is a crime of nature I'm willing to let slide since we got the books and show. I'm of the mind that the zombie dragon is the show's version of an ice dragon and things will be different in the books.

To my understanding, that's how book Coldhands worked - a wight warged by the 3-eyed raven.

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2017/8/20/16170748/season-7-episode-6-recap-beyond-the-wall

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2017/8/21/16178694/game-of-thrones-beyond-the-wall-characters-escape-death Ranks the "escape from death" in the "Beyond the Wall" episode. Pretty much agree with the analysis.

I LOVED the dialogue along the march this episode. The fight scenes were also great. But I started thinking about how I can appreciate what is on screen these past few seasons, but rarely do I get excited about it. The "Battle of the Bastards" was an epic fight in any other environment, but in GoT I was "meh" about it. I just couldn't accept that the Boltons would have an army that would fight in such a manner and were so badass compared to what we've seen up until that point. Likewise, trading a dragon for a zombie for the chance at persuading Cersei to join their side? With everyone knowing she isn't to be trusted... or even needed to fight/win the war? Going back pretty far, but the action scenes that sprouted from changes/new material that really got me pumped were smaller: Arya + Hound in the Inn ("chickens"), and Brienne vs Hound. The motivation to position each character to these areas made sense. Also, if there was a stupid plan (which is the case lately), it's easy to fault one character acting alone rather than a group deciding this is best. Looking forward, I can see some good coming from these events, though. It positions Jaime to sacrifice Cersei at some point after this big meeting. It also sets up some dragon-on-dragon badassery. GRRM has a kids book out called "The Ice Dragon." Good, fast read set in a similar Westeros setting. I figured there'd be an ice dragon eventually, but assumed it was from the rumored dragon that was buried under Winterfell (from an early Bran chapter in the books as he was warged into Summer). So, yeah. I'm enjoying the show but on first watch I can't turn my brain off. I'm looking forward to my second and third watch.